As I walked through the car park at Ruraltown nick last evening, I saw a full house of SMT so-called ‘pool cars’. It was almost as if they had parked them there as a joke. From left to right there was a Jaguar, a Mercedes and a BMW. All near top of the range, all new and all very shiny.
I was surprised because I had just finished a 12 hour shift, most of which was spent looking for a high risk, suicidal missing person during which I was constantly reminded about the lack of overtime budget and resources due to the ‘cuts’.
I was the Silver Commander for this incident. ‘Silver’ should be a qualified Chief Inspector but we don’t have one on F Division, again due to the cuts. Apparently there is a ban on expensive national training courses at the moment. This is because, the Chief told us the other day, we are only ‘broadly in line’ with the savings we need to make this year.
Clearly, these ‘savings’ do not extend to the considerable collection of luxury automotive engineering sitting in the SMT bays back at the nick.
We couldn’t get our shared helicopter (something to do with some light drizzle and a wisp of fog over some heliport two counties away) neither could I find a single available police dog in the whole Shire (training, I was informed, really? I thought, what, all of them?) and the only 4X4 we could find broke down on the way to the RVP.
Eventually, along with two-thirds of my own response team (which is not many trust me!) a handful of disgruntled Neighbourhood officers, clearly very bitter about having been taken away from their appointments (as calls to the police over trivial matters are now called) some keen but hapless PCSO’s from G Division with a complete Force Tactical Reserve Team fresh from the gym at Headquarters, we managed to form a staggered line and begin the search.
We were in thick woodland with deep bogs and streams crossing the small clearings to the west. To the East was the motorway and to the north a major river system. To the south, the badlands adjoining Metrocity, and the promise of a spare dog team (which never arrived).
As I stood at the RVP looking at my muddy old map with the police search advisor, I could see the dull orange glow from Metroland way off to the south. Behind us it was starting to become pitch black in the woods. Can I say that in the modern police service? But it was, pitch black that is. All the usual suspects came in to play. Lack of resilience in the airwaves batteries, Response on the phone begging for the vehicles back so they can start to attend the evening’s Facebook death-threats and a rude little man from the control room asking me something about an Op name for budget purposes.
I asked for emergency lighting and new power cells for the search lamps. His tone made me feel like a criminal.
A senior officer phoned me to ask, rather too abruptly for my liking, if I had started a ‘policy file’. Yes Sir, the officers who have been at the search site for eight hours are fine thanks. What the centre really want above anything else (including actually finding the poor man) is for the audit trail to be sound. Stop looking and start writing. That’s the ticket.
Suddenly a shout from one of the search team officers. His mucker from the control room has phoned him to say that the bloke has been found in a motorway service station 100 miles away with a pipe attached to the exhaust of his car. He is alive, but only just. Then we receive the formal broadcast MISPER found over the failing airwaves. At that precise moment, the helicopter arrives.
I now await my phone call, in about a month, where the Super will shout at me for ‘lack of performance’ on such and such date. When I get a word in, I will tell her that we were looking for a suicidal missing person all day. This will not wash with her. She is mad with ambition. And besides, she and the others have promised the elected police chief candidates that crime will fall on their watch, not that missing people will be found, or not found because they were never there, as in our case.
Is this your force? I bet it is.
Gadget Note: For the search enthusiasts: we were at the location because bizarrely, his shoe was found on the road leading through the area by a dog walker, who thought it was odd to find an office shoe in the countryside! On the face of it, good call!















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YES!!! 11 TO MY NAME. COWER PUNY MORTALS!!!
But which name?
Whichever one gets through the Monty Python and the Vikings filter.
Arise Sir Lancealot…..
I’m not quite as homicidal as Monty Python’s Sir Lancealot.
“You kicked the bride in the chest!”
“Oh…did I? Sorry”.
Well done Lance!
Well done Lance,
But can I be first to complain about the picture of the Notts Inspector from Coppers last night being at the top of the page.
Up there, ^^^^^^^
Really, he’s taking the joke too far now.
First?
We need seconds on the time stamp! 6.44 for us both!
podium?
Top 10?
4th. PB…..That will do nicely!
Boss if your map was upside down and Metrocity was to the north you could have been describing my farce.
Its not what you do but what you write….when i was being trained i was told always use an ACE card. Being naive i asked what that was, when. my tutor stopped laughing he explained it was an Arse Covering Exercise. turned out to sound advice.
Top ten?
Oh yes 4th! Best ever!! Horah and God Bless Gadget!!!
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Greif, I must be really slowing down. Time to curl up in front of the fire from now on ;o)
If I were you, I’d curl up in front of the computer!
I tried but that damn cat had already bagged it!
1st
First
I can’t be first!
Oh poo, so close
Ok, yes… I really meant 11st !
!2th???
Top ten?
Nearly top ten – bugger!
Nobody (outside of the police) understands JUST how much of our time is spent dealing with this kind of thing.
Plenty in the police don’t – generally the ones who send you emails 9-5 mon-fri, then send more when they don’t get an instant reply because you are asleep before a Night shift!
What the First game?
Just bought your book Lance and I am 1/4 way through it. So much of the detail in it could be my farce, too.
I left the Other Force anonymous for two reasons.
One as they are to this day at stalemate with regard to suing me for libel. They would have to come forward and say “it’s us he’s accusing of horrid behaviour and unimaginable cretinousness…not to mention appalling bullying”.
Two, I realised most of the details could be anybody’s farce. Be it Sergeant Kerwan’s methods of binning people he doesn’t like; PC Jemima Hambleworth’s patronising ramblings re: Diversity or the visits from various twats like the Youth Offending Team.
If you like it, feel free to leave a 5 star review on Amazon. Kerwan left a “review” on there when it came out but I replied underneath with a comment that addressed him by his real name. 6 hours later…review gone.
Odd new banner on the blog. What do the dirty feet represent? Surely your Farce isn’t so cash strapped they won’t supply uniform socks and shoes?
A swinger I guess.
They never supplied socks or shoes before! We have to pay for our own boots, unless your Level 2.
We get boots issued in my force
Have to buy my own socks though
My lot supply socks AND boots!!…No wonder its going to the dogs…….
‘uniform socks’ ha ha
I imagine it refers to the SNT inspector on Coppers who made a hanging gesture with his tie when referring to the endless torrent of irrelevant crap that his officers had to wade through every day.
Me thinks JuliaM is not a serving officer. Maybe she thinks we get uniform pants to match the uniform socks??
Uniform pants – with your collar number on. Ha ha ha
They don’t supply forearm protectors either.
” As I walked through the car park at Ruraltown nick last evening, I saw a full house of SMT so-called ‘pool cars’. It was almost as if they had parked them there as a joke. From left to right there was a Jaguar, a Mercedes and a BMW. All near top of the range, all new and all very shiny.”
How the HELL can that be JUSTIFIED…………. What is wrong with a Ford Mondeo ?????
This sounds a lot like the new Nick that the previous Chief in my old farce signed off. It not only has a bit in the car park solely for SMT but the wall around it is higher than the Federation/ Supers’ Association members’ car park (which faces a wood where kids have shot catapults at the cars before now).
It also has a ban on kettles being brought in due to the building being rented. This means that only prisoners get free drinks.
You couldn’t make it up!
And this before there even are elected chiefs. Wsit and see when you answer to one of those, the Super will seem like a great memory of the past…
One of our SMT applied for a new Audi as his SECOND job motor..he required it fully equipped with covert lights etc.
funny i can only drive one car at a time…..
At least the one who has the Jag is supporting the UK car manufacturing economy.
Not even Jags are British anymore
If they wished to support UK car manufacturing, they would be driving Nissan’s.
IG, I know your not in my county now from the above story, guess that only leaves the rest of england
I see a SMT car park full of GTR’s in your near future..
@southcoast Thats a typical tax-dodge that goes on. If its fitted with covert lights and sirens, then its classified as a “police vehicle” and not a “company car” – and therefore exempt for tax.
Takes your breath away, dont it?
I remember, about 2 years ago at ryton, seeing a brand new audi rs6 kitted up with the lights etc – it was an ACPO company car. Takes the mick really. If it was a diesel then it’d be a little different, but a 5.2 litre Lamborghini engined “company car” is pushing a bit too far for a public service.
It would be interesting to know if they are suitably qualified to use the lights and sirens themselves…
Only then could they get round the tax.
The very question I’ve been asking recently. Response teams where I work sometimes use an unmarked car as you tend to see more when you crew such a vehicle. It’s used mainly in rural areas to combat a recent rise in rural crime. We’ve asked for grill lights to be fitted so that we can actually stop vehicles rather than having to call a marked unit which can sometimes take 40 or more minutes to respond by which time the occupants of the sus vehicle have clocked us following them all over the place and have either made off (nothing that we can do about that) or have had plenty of time to concoct and perfect their story.
We’ve been told that there’s absolutely no way that we can have blue lights fitted as none of us hold the required ticket. We’ve stressed that we don’t want the lights in order to pursue or respond, just to stop. unfortunately, our pleas have fallen on deaf ears. Particularly frustrating when every officer of Supt rank and above have their own work cars, all of which have covert blues fitted. I guarantee that very few of those officers (if any) have the required tickets. Even if they do, I doubt that they’d have had to meet the same standard as officers of lower ranks or have even completed the full course.
FOI request?
Don …. its quite ‘normal’ to find these cars in the SMT car park. My force have BMW’s and Audi TT’s for their own use. Even the civies have them, the likes of Director of HR (Admin manager) and Director of Finance (Payman)
utterly wrong in so many ways … a Mondeo is more than adequate
Normal…………….. YES………………Justifiable…………NO !!!!
The price of any “company car” for SMT should be CAPPED……….Mondeo, Focus or similar…………….At the MOST
“How the HELL can that be JUSTIFIED…………. What is wrong with a Ford Mondeo ?????”
Well……
1) It’s a Ford Mondeo
Twelvety!
“What is wrong with a Ford Mondeo”
A salesmans car.
Not the car that an executive of a police service should drive.
I think car envy should be an offence under the equality act.
!!
(duck….not a bird sorta duck)
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What car do you think the Met will give Dizzy if he wins his trial and is reinstated?
(again)
The word Promotion seems to have disappeared from my post above.
Peel P50. I think it would suit him.
I would love it if they give him command of ooooo let me see…… Protection? In charge of MP’s bodyguards?
That’d be nice
Why is it so much fun to park a marked Police vehicle into an SMT space, lock the Police vehicle and hide the keys.
It’s just utterly, utterly childish and I accept that.
However…..
Im surprised you even know the code to get the barrier open. Its a top secret, need-to-know code that only super special people know. (but apparently if you slide a metal tray across the sensors, it makes it open… shhhhhh)
Said this before but it’s kind of relevant now.
Came back to hand in my warrant card after resigning (but ended up in an argument with some vinegar faced PSE who was telling what the Super didn’t have the decency to say to my face). Stuck my car in the Chief Super’s bay. He was heard loudly remonstrating “who owns that silver Peugeot 360?!!”.
I would have left it there all day but had to take the fire exit to the car park and then blat it out of the Nick like it was the Batcave.
Incidentally the female Super of an adjacent area may like to know that we named her car the OldBatmobile.
Would like to clarify that I left at lightspeed due to avoid having to work my notice period (after being previously told by an Inspector that I wouldn’t have to) and to get a Doctor’s note to back up signing off sick with “stress & anxiety”. It was NOT due to fear of the Chief Super’s wrath.
Very avant garde with your vehicle of choice, Lance
http://www.automotto.com/entry/turning-new-angles-peugeot-360-shows-versatility-without-wheels/
I spend my days parking marked vehicles in the Civvys parking bays at the nick – hours of fun.
They get really stroppy.
We accidentally parked in SOCO bay once. Then they blocked us in there and sent out a stroppy email.
10 mins later and we’re sat in the car with lights and sirens going (jobbed) shouting for SOCO to move before they get rammed..
When I was on restricted duties at our pink and fluffy force HQ i used to park my clapped out peugot in the BPA car space which was always empty and was situated next to the twent disabled spaces which were always empty.
Any way one day the BPA rep. turned up, saw my car, reported me and I got a straight red life time ban from parking in HQ car park….I was required to resign a month or so later so feck em ( I must stress that I wasnt required to resign for parking in the BPA space but for parking in the GLATSPA spaces opposite (LOL by the way)
I dropped a colleague off at the vehicle workshop a few years back so that he could collect keys to a panda that had been repaired. I pulled up right outside the office and inadvertently parked on a disabled bay. There is only one bay I might add, and its within the compound, so its not for public use, only Police. Just one lowly little disabled bay, no doubt put there at the request of the diversity department. Its a shame that same department doesn’t introduce a user friendly stab vest to stop me having a bad back, but I digress.
Anyway – I’m sat there with the engine running waiting for my colleague, who I can see through the office window. I waited, just in case the car wasn’t ready to collect. Just then, some fat arsed female inspector, who clearly hadn’t walked the beat in some time, marched over to me and said “Move the car- its on a disabled bay”. I explained that I was not going to be more than a few seconds as my colleague was approaching the door. She was having none of it- she said ” I don’t care – move it now”. I drove it forwards a few feet while she stood and watched me.
I nearly told her to fuck off, the silly good for nothing, Monday to Friday/9 to 5 working, KFC eating cow.
She’s probably never had a shag in years either.
I once recieved a straight (can I say that?) red card lifetime ban from the force HQ car park for parking in the BPA reps space which was always empty and was situated next to the 20 empty disabled spaces. I was on restricted duties at the time for the terrible offence of not accepting a speeding ticket and putting in a report to try and get off with it.
what really screwed their plan with regards to the parking ban was that I was required to resign a few weeks later not I hasten to add for parking in the BPA space but for parking in the LGBTSPA ( I think)
I didnt post my last post twice as a form of attention seeking I thought I’d been censored and decided to give it another go!
why’d you get required to resign Les … whats the story? Apologies if you’ve told the story before … missed it and are just curious …
Don’t be shy Les. Your in good company here
I was found guilty of being a white male hetro-sexual beer swilling meat eating straight talking ex squaddie with torretts who did a speed camera whilst deployed on a UC Job and being a burnt out prima donna and washed out has been (the words of my DI on Emsou) I decided to fight it and put a report in claiming I was engaged in counter surveillance I then refused to comment when the DI and DS questioned me regarding the ticket until I had spoken to my fed rep.
18 months restricted duties and retired to resign thank you very much and god save the queen (thats the monarch not the Chief Constable who is an Asian Lesbian)
my story is call Dry Powder and is available at £7.99 on Amazon (Shameless plug)
and I use spell check in the book
Blimey boss your force description sounds depressingly familiar, even down to the 4×4 breaking down, apart from the rude little man, which you can replace with an abrasive sarcastic female, I would swear that I worked for the same farce.
Spot on post boss, that defo could be my force on any given day….
Top 50? Oh for the heady days of my first, so long ago…
Good post guv, sounds so similar to the stories I hear from Mr Sweeney, maybe you’re in our force area?
Inside top 50.
Metrocity CCC has the abrasive sarcastic female angle covered too.
Metcall have been circulated a powerpoint presentation by one of their CI’s, telling the (largely civilian, and thus minimally trained) dispatchers NOT to be polite, but to deploy us cross-border to other boroughs calls (makes sense for an urgent assistance or a robbery near the border – but they are sending us to S grades deep inside another borough).
The Powerpoint demands the dispatchers COMMAND units to do what CCC want, uses images of Gene Hunt under the slogan “He wouldn’t take any rubbish from borough, neither should you” and a slide entitled “Our dad is bigger than their dad – the name of the game is escalation” which states that if a skipper refuses to cross-deploy a unit the CCC inspector should be called, if a borough inspector refuses a chief inspector is to be called, all the way up to a Commander (equiv of an ACC in county forces).
The tone of the whole thing is the single most disgraceful thing I’ve seen yet in The Job – belittling, demeaning and confrontational, implying that all borough officers are lazy twats while civilian staff and desk-jockey senior officers in CCC are the only thing standing between London and total anarchy.
We are already seeing the results of this bullying culture on borough, where CCC operators are aggressively questioning how long units have been at scene – totally uncalled for and totally unhelpful.
Unfortunately the younger in service will take it too. I never allow control to dictate what im doing at a job. If im sent to a job, then it takes however long it takes to sort it properly. Then i go to my next one. At the end of the day, if i fook up a job by rushing it and something important gets missed then its my neck on the line as its my name on the electronic log as first attending.
I shake my head everytime i hear a bobby say “is it ok to take my refreshment break now?” I never ask them permission.. i tell them “i am on break now, show me unavailable”.
I concur with you about the bullying… its all rush, rush, rush and targets and “do it now, think about it later”. Not proper policing at all.
Ahhh Refs!
It’s always amusing to hear “I know you’re on a break, but can I just….” from Metcall. They get a break every hour or so, on which they aren’t even in the same room as their radio, let alone actually answering it. They have a nice comfy sofa area with a big LCD telly, and a very trendy kitchen/canteen area downstairs.
Despite all that, and their own peace and quiet being totally inviolate, they seem to think it’s perfectly acceptable to pester us when we’re eating in our closed canteen, sitting on nasty plastic chairs.
I leave my radio on for Gucci jobs (suspects on, par example) and urgent assistance shouts, not to chat about an E graded mental health Misper or the IBO’s latest nitpicking complaints about one of my CAD results.
With regards to doing the job properly – I couldn’t agree more, despite being fairly young in service. You’ve got to be a fair bit senior to me and willing to put your name on the CAD before you get to tell me how long is reasonable to spend at a griefy job. We all know officers who take the piss and long out simple jobs, but that’s something to be dealt with by peer pressure and supervision on borough, not by someone with no policing experience sitting in an air conditioned call centre.
The last time someone in Metcall tried it, they were foolish enough to pick on an….outspoken….RT driver, who took severe umbrage at their attempt to embarrass her on channel one!
They must have a frustrating job at times – there are lazy officers out there who refuse to take calls with no good reason – however treating frontline officers who are taking all the risks as the enemy is not the way to get results.
Working together for a safer London my arse!
Chaps.
On the top of the radio is this knurled black turny thingy, called a volume knob.
Very useful…..
As is the ability to say ‘No’ and ignore the inevitably whiny (and for some reason always female) voice that will continue to whine at you. I’ll answer my skipper if he calls (normally on the mobile) but CCC when whining about sh1t can fck off.
I’m a grown up and have enough experience to know what’s important an what’s box ticking policy shite
Have you had the “bring your daughter into work day” on the PR yet?
I fell out with my IBO, because at a certain hour of the morning they just won’t pick the phone up. So I walked over, and in to the IBO to do whatever it is I had to do.
Suffice to say there was lots of sitting around drinking tea going on.
Quite disgraceful. The utilisation of uniformed borough resources is the responsibility of the section sergeant and the duty officer, not civilians at Metcall. Cross-deployment is a complete waste of time. Our patch is inundated with our own calls and yet we still get asked to assist leafy outer boroughs that get three ‘I’ calls per week (I joke only slightly).
I won’t be bullied by some desk jockey at CCC to rush when dealing with a call, after all it will be me gripping the rail and answering to the DPS and IPCC if things aren’t done correctly. I will firmly but politely tell the dispatcher why that is the case.
Our “leaders” have made the job so complicated and confrontational. What was wrong with a CAD room and a section skipper armed with a piece of paper detailing who was on duty? Now we have faceless armies of people at CCC playing internal politics and making everyone’s life a misery. The legacy of Ian Blair.
We might be pounding the same streets, that sounds very familiar!
Surrounding boroughs are excellent at turning up to urgent assistances on my BOCU, but I’ve never, ever seen or heard them take an actual call, even an I grade. I’m not sure I’d expect them to – I imagine they have their own stuff to be getting on with, just as we have.
What I don’t get is that we are given taskings to patrol our area, turn over local slag, speak to ‘the communities’, carry out warrants and ANPR operations – all of which we are measured on. Now CCC want to send me to an S graded domestic 5 miles away because they are stressing about a charter time from a pledge that doesn’t exist any more. Are my SMT going to accept “I was making sure XX BOCU didn’t miss their charter times for an S grade sir. Obviously it’s unfortunate that because I was tucked up over there, I missed the I grade on our ground. Their Dad was bigger than my Dad!”.
To be fair when have you heard any neighbouring borough put up for a outstanding ‘I’ graded domestic? As you rightly say if its an urgent assistance than they will come from all over (not a criticism btw) each borough plays the game and i dont blame them for not wanting to take another boroughs griefy call.
Fair play to the caged van drivers though as if there is one needed they will deffo make their way!
Exactly my point – it’s pointless, self-defeating and an in-effective use of resources in most cases.
I think we are at the same borough old chap. Today the neighbouring division asked us to attend an S call only ten minutes old where a car had been left with the handbrake off and had gently rolled into another car causing minimal damage.Our Sergeant told the operator where to go.
PS for non-Met an S call is not urgent and we have an hour to attend.Even though targets have been abolished of course!
They are not “targets”, remember.. they are “milestones”. LMAO
They are ‘performance indicators’ in the Met – but we still use the dreaded term ‘targets’ too. We do our own t’ing blud, we don’ follow no man’s code!
Ive never stopped laughing since that “milestone” blog came out. Its so Shakespearean… “a rose by any other, would still be a rose”.. or a TARGET!!
Another example of how we get patronised and treated like we are a bunch of fools.
Huh? If someone’s car rolls into mine in such a manner I’m taking photos and calling my insurance company.
Why the hell would anyone news the police for something as minor as that?
Take a guess at what the one of the first questions the insurance phone company’s phone monkey would ask.
Dont insurance companies ask for the “RTC” to be reported to the police to get an “RTC number”? Its been a long time since i did front office, but a many years ago – i know that if it was non-injury we advised the parties to come into the front office and complete a self reporting form.
MPS(n)P
I am so glad I no longer have to listen to the CCC types. It has gone too far now. Being chased at calls is one thing that would make me lose my rag with them. I used to be quite popular because during quieter times I would go and square up as many of the old lingering shite calls to help get the list down. Until my squaring up ability was called into question by a civvy controller calling my IBO. No more helpful AngryMet. Burglaries, they take at least an hour. Domestic with kids, that’s probably two. Multiple vehicle RTA, oh that’s ages with the SMF put on the CAD and all the stupid f**king boxes filled in for the stats people (I used to fill in random ones) and any arrests that might tie me up for half a shift.
Refs are only interrupted for a T66 or a chase. If you ever get to have any. I don’t miss team at all.
I’m looking for a way off of team. Which is a shame. I love response policing, but I’ve got diabolical supervisors who don’t supervise, don’t back you up and don’t encourage, I’ve got a governor who I love but he is so long in the tooth and so on the verge of retirement that he can’t be arsed to take the skippers in hand.
and now my team is more than 50% probationers, the majority of whom are ex-specials and have been completely failed by this new fangled training scheme which gives them absolutely no street experience, and no time at all to actually learn how to do anything properly and with the supervisors as lacklustre as they are, the weight of teaching how to police falls squarely on me and a few other coppers shoulders, which means pretty much every shift I am out with someone I don’t know, who looks to me to take the lead in everything and in a few cases, whose officer safety is beyond woeful.
and im still expected to take all the calls, do all the paperwork and all the shite that comes along with it.
all of us – the team that I joined, the people ive gone through all types of s**t with, the people I trust and with whom I have that sort of relationship you only get with fellow coppers – all of us feel like that, and we are literally running for cover. if the moves plan out, there will be 3 surviving pcs from the team I joined 4 years ago.
i feel unaccountably sad about leaving, cos I dont really want to stop doing what I regard as the reason why I joined – that is response policing, the grass roots stuff that everything else is built on – and i feel like I am letting the probationers down by leaving them in the hands of our useless collection of supervisors, but up to this point I have never been close to unhappy at work, even when standing on a crime scene at 2am with my feet like blocks of ice, of sharing a room with a corpse for several hours waiting for the undertakers, or rolling around on the floor with a guy intent on filling me in
but I know if I stay I WILL get bitter and twisted, I WILL row with the skippers and the governor, and I wont be any use to anyone. im doing my part 1 in march, hopefully ill pass, and hopefully in a couple of years or so ill get back onto team as a skipper and DO IT PROPERLY and maybe, just maybe I’ll be able to save my pcs the s**t rolling down from on high, and make them realise they do a worthwhile job, give them recognition when they do the brilliant work they almost certainly will do and maybe, just maybe they wont all want to leave team
here’s hoping.
stay safe out there.
Good luck with the exam. I only hope you CAN go back and do it properly. I’m glad I failed my part 1. Being a skipper these days means you never go out, you are always being chased from above and below and… Your career options are seriously limited. My team 15 years ago was amazing. If it was still like that I’d be happy. But it isn’t. We all know. It’s proper F U C K E D.
Go for a change London. You may come back refreshed or move into more interesting career options.
Sometimes a career break works wonders.
Just saying.
For the most part, you just described my team to a ‘T’.
Same here
MPS(n)P
Sadly it will happen when the Met’s resources become as critical as some county ones. I served in a certain one for a while and being hurried to leave one call to go to another or being diverted to another and being sent back later was common place.
The Met Police spent £35k over the past two years ringing the speaking clock.
I absolutely shit you not.
Original FOI document from Met Police website below.
http://www.met.police.uk/foi/pdfs/disclosure_2011/december/2011110000259.pdf
You’re so last week darling!
You do realise that CPS require we check CCTV recordings are correct in their timings?
So why not use the time from the internet or one of the 24 hour news channels? £35k of the taxpayers money wasted on such a frivilous service is an absolute disgrace! It would pay the annual JSA of 10 unemployed individuals.
We’re not always in the nick
.. and as Special Dibble rightly points out. 99% of the time, the CCTV we are seizing is from outside sources, shops and private premises and the like. Airwaves doesnt have internet.
and if it did it wouldn’t fucking work…. who does that cretin always comment without researching first?
To get a rise out of us!
Victor Stirling is an anagram of “I Take It Hard From Goats”
You sir, owe me a new keyboard!
Lance I bow to your anagram malarkey ( clean my lane being a fav I have to ahem…. cough to) but goat has an “a”.
Just saying like.
*I will be serious but highly unlikely with the r@pe of pay now and pensions following.
*damn glad I have a new job
Lance, that’s a topper!
Why not use that wireless thingy that you carry and ask comms? See, that wasn`t hard was it!
£35, 000 saved (or used for overtime)
@Victor. Dont ask me, ask CPS why they make such demands. We get sent memos asking for officers to check the timings of whatever CCTV system was downloaded has correct timings. Then that officer has to make a statement. Dont blame the police for something which CPS demand.
I dont think wordings such as… ” i then checked the timing against Sky news” would be acceptable to them. CCTV recording timing has to be checked down to the very last second.
I feel lucky.. CPS don’t ask us for crap like that.
This far North we still use sundials.
We’ve got no TV’s in custody?
Most officers in the Met don’t have internet access on their accounts?
There’s probably some ridiculous policy written before all those things were invented that hasn’t been updated since, except for its impact on diversity?
How about the time according to my watch?
CPS wont have it. How can you guarantee your watch is accurate?
I understand why people are angry over this and i see the reasons why. But i know for a fact that, on my farce, the CPS want you to check CCTV timings against the speaking clock. It seems they are stuck on that one and only method of relying on time accuracy.
Buy an Accurist watch. They sponsor the speaking clock don’t they?
Otherwise shove a f**king Omega or a Rolex in their face and they might believe it’s accurate.
Oh, can’t afford those can we.
@angrymet Dont shoot the messenger. I get fustrated by CPS every day. But my health and my blood pressure is more important to me.
Sorry Oompa!
If the Met supplied every officer with a watch it would cost a hell of a lot more than £35,000.
VICTOR may also be interested to know… that for each commital file we compile, CPS demand that for each CCTV exhibit they ask for that format to be transferred to a “DVD viewable format”. They then ask for it to be copied 3 times. Then they ask the officer to take along a DVD player to the court, as they have no laptops of their own to do this and no facililities in court to display CCTV.
As an added bonus, you may have several ID parades conducted… all which have been recorded onto their own seperate DVD disc. All those need copying 3 times.
Think of all that wasted time and all those DVD discs…. that bill must run far in excess to the speaking clock bill.
CPS can be perceived as “mithering pains in the arses”….
But if you can bypass the memos and bureaucracy and speak to a person – they are actually quite spot on and helpful…
They take that independent view of jobs and perhaps take out our emotion of “getting the bastard” done – and put an element of realism in.
They pulled a job of mine the other day – but when I found out why I realised I had avoided a dry shafting in the witness box……..
Don’t get me wrong .. they make mistakes… but we make probably more in the heat of the moment, under pressure, etc etc
They can be a friend too…
They must be much better where you are. Ours are rude, incompetent and hard to find – despite taking up a large office and several reserved parking spaces at our nick.
I have neverever beenasked to take a timingfrom CCTV bycps. Am I suggestingthat our cps is more relaxedthanmet cps. Couldthat betrue, I hopenot
Wow, phone really SMT’d that one up a treat.,
or for your divisional supers next job Audi …..
http://minimumcover.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/journalists-vs-the-police-joe-wade-sticks-the-knife-in/
Thanks for that Dibs…
Yes, and if you do the sums it works out at something like 2 calls per officer per year. You can make scarily big figures like this from any organisation with large numbers of staff. It doesn’t really mean anything.
@ben – this was demolished on the Grauniad website a week or so ago, When you do the maths the arguement falls over.
I’ve never phoned the speaking clock. Just saying, is all.
Are you big, ben?
what time is it ?
I assume the reason for the calls is to make the phone engaged, so that MoPs/bosses can’t call.
That’s the usual reason for calls to the speaking clock etc in large organisations.
Meanwhile back in the trough
Big businesses have been paying £1,800 a time to dine with ministers and civil servants at exclusive ‘Chemistry Club’ events, reigniting the cash for access row.
Chief secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander, climate change minister Lord Taylor and Policing minister Nick Herbert have all addressed the invite-only events, usually hosted at Mayfair restaurant Sartoria.
Off topic.. but i am watching “Benidorm ER”. The Spanish must think we are a bunch of drunken idiots. So embarassing we, as a nation, take this chav behaviour abroad.
Agreed….Have the prats NO pride at all? I wish we stopped them ….took away their passports or something . Im sick of being embarrassed to be British because of vile behaviour both overseas and here especially when the pubs close and they stagger out vomiting fighting vile behaviour in general. Sorry…ranting as its my pet hate!
At the other end of the scale
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091541/Whoops-Police-officer-wrecks-155mph-supercar-carries-2am-test-drive-public-road.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Since when has a Golf, even a GTI, been a “Super Car”?
Perhaps the car isn’t as good as VW claim? I’d rather the police find out by testing on real roads at night than by finding out the hard way when a purchased car goes off the road into pedestrians.
I hope the driver makes a speedy recovery.
Pedestrians still walk about at night… few and far between, but they are still about.
But if you look carefully, it still looks like a Golf!
Doesn’t sound like a Golf though!
and because the Golf-pranger was once daft enough to appear on a tv cop show, the Daily Maul has now splashed his photo.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092245/Car-Wars-Policeman-Paul-Fletcher-wrecks-40k-supercar-test-drive.html
You must be off your rocker to have anything to do with the media.
Regarding parking spaces, a dci has put a sign up in his space and said no parking at any time. Does this mean he has to be taxed and declare it to inland revenue. Does anyone know?
Is it on private land? If so, and the land is part of the nick then i dont see why he would have to be taxed for using a parking space.
It’s the same as having a company car apparently – it’s a taxable benefit to have an allocated parking space.
Don’t get me started on S grade times…. two of my colleagues have a little “management action” thing going on at the moment… having missed the one hour time…. can this be enforced I wonder?
Other thing that makes me laugh are these “Priority S grades”, must admit I haven’t heard this term used much recently until yesterday…. basically an urgent/emergency call that has for whatever reason missed the I grade time but is suddenly suitable to be downgraded to a one hour response (but as soon as you can) wtf??
I did start my day with a smile though…. having been posted by my skipper to a reporting car and first being required to take over a constant watch in custody, my skipper took a sip of tea. As he lifted the cup on the bottom all I could see were the words “I’M A TWAT”. Actually he isn’t generally but it made me smile all the same.
Do you know how many of our SLT have job cars?
None. All the way up to Chief Constable, although they do have access to a police vehicle just for them but they don’t take it home etc.
ours don’t get them outright bought for them but they do get them on assisted purchase via a leasing company as one of the perks of being above supt rank.
We have recently started having a supt on duty and awake 24×7 somewhere in the force area, suddenly these supts appear to have forgot the ability to drive themselves and instead get a pool driver to drive them about in a brand new Jag – alright for some. This is whilst I am bump starting the panda, trying to fit a bulb to make it slightly legal, taking the knives out from under the back seats etc etc….
Will you for fuckssake stop giving yourselves quasi-military names? Bronze Command, Silver…you don’t have the guts to go to Helmand so do what you do best, beat poor sods like Chris Alder to death. Six against one? Only way your sort will ever get the better of a squaddie. Oh and don’t give us all that “Many of us are ex-servicemen”. In the R.A it was only the semi-literate Geordies who dishonoured themselves by joining you scum.
I’ll bet you have neither the balls to go to Helmand or do front line policing and are nothing other than a sad pathetic trolling Walt. Zzzzzzzzzz
Again with the “front line” policing. Special Constable? Special needs eh. Not good enough to join the real police? Or are you a uniform fetish type? Now as to guts, call me a n*g*er lover to my face. You are well ‘ard with half a dozen pals behind you. Why is a dissenting voice a troll? You hate the truth, that is all.
I did it for the chicks….. None so far. Sigh, seriously, get help mate, a life of frustration is unhealthy
Im sorry.. i must have missed the bit when the police were in some sort of percieved competition with the military.
You might be interested to know that my team are holding a charity night for “help the heroes” next month. I will send you an invite if you want to come along?
But you ARE in competition. When I did Honour Guard in London we marched with empty rifles and gormless armed plod beside us. having seen what your “elite” armed lot are like it was one of the few times I shat myself, along with my platoon! You want my name and address? Yes send me a ticket, you lot trying to garner popularity is too funny!
Its not garnering popularity, its called helping others in need.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win” (Gandhi). Fuck off into the slums and help those you oppress.
I pity you. No-one here is trying to fight the military. Its all in your mind.
“When I did Honour Guard”
Of course you did, sweetheart.
Who were YOU with, arsehole?
Man, it’s almost too easy.
And to think of all the truly great trolls I’ve encountered over the years, it’s come down to this.
Standards are falling everywhere it seems. Pity, I had some great times baiting them.
Still, you keep trying ducky, I’m sure you’ll get there eventually
49 Para. Before joining Waltshire constabulary.
Why did marching down a London street cause you and your platoon to “sh*t yourselves”? Bit scary for you, was it? … marching down a British civilian street must have been terrifying for you, Im sure.
Whats “Honour Guard” when it’s at home?
Youre making sh1t up you Walt.
Are we talking Queen’s Guard in London or Public Duties elsewhere?
If you’re gonna bullsh1t fella- take it somewhere else before a grown up shoots your lies down in flames.
You minge
Interestingly, the firearms dept in my force aren’t interested in ex-military types. They state that they cannot fire a gun accurately and have to be trained to. Most, if not all of em, miss the targets they’re shooting at and end up failing on the first week.
Just sayin like.
Apparently we are – I had someone claiming to be forces a while ago who I’d arrested telling, ”You clearly arn’t trained to kill bruv.” To which I replied, ”Congratulations on spotting that I am a civilian policeman.”.
Its ok now though – I did the ”Training to kill NCALT”.
Keyboard hardcase eh ?……………………….TWONK !!!!
Everyone who is not telling you what a great job you are doing is…a keyboard hardcase, a twonk, a n*g*er lover? We all know what you are “Don”, a wannabe Dirty Harry. Grow a few feet, learn how to parse a sentence, maybe one day!
What you have said here is very insulting. You do not know the ethnicity of anyone on here. And to love black people is a good thing, not a negative connotation you seem to be implying. People are people whatever their skin colour. I am colour blind.. i judge people on their ethics and their competence.
You have problems, my friend.
I am finished with you. Please take your neanderthal ways elsewhere.
Well said, my little orange friend.
Read and learn Soldier.
http://mickupton.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/practical-use-of-command-and-control-by-crowd-managers/
We took and held Broadwater for 24 hrs against overwhelming numbers. Blakelock’s head on a stick. Fu*king beautiful! Then you fitted up Winston…
It.’s good to read crap from a good Troll every now and then!
Do they allow internet access from Colchester now?
Derek/Ciaran/gold, get laid mate, you’ll calm down
He just did. Your Mum And she charges too much!!
whay!
TWONK………………..hahahahahahahaha !
You haven’t answered the question posed by Buzz GC … what do you mean by ‘honour guard’ ??? ….. you’ve skirted that question mate … now you’ve had sometime to think up a bit of bullshit I’d be curious to hear it …..
You have stated that any reply would be bullshit, But I will ask you a question. Abolition of juries. To “save costs” or because no jury will now convict on police evidence?
I know loads of juries that convict on Police evidence kiddo …. where are we going with this?? …. whats your point? … Do you even have one? or are you, as I suspect trying to answer a question with a question to avoid answering the question? ….. I see what you did there ….. was that something you learned in your Hereford days? …..
Answer the question then? ….. the ‘Honour Guard’ one? …… I suspect you may have been in the Walt Platoon ….. on your own outside buck Palace gates taking pictures of real soldiers within ….
I’m sorry Gold Command that you didn’t manage to get through the Police Initial Recruitment Test but hey, the Police isn’t for everybody.
I strongly suspect we met a several years ago at a right wing demo where we stopped a number of fools, one or two who were carrying ID cards showing admin clerk roles in the mob as well as ‘membership cards’ to the BNP and certain football gangs (yes that’s right, they were carrying membership cards to a football hooligan clique)!
You are letting the side down here chap. Everybody on here has the utmost respect for the services but absolutely no respect for some jumped up little oik with medal envy who runs around shouting, “How many wars have you fought in?” only for it to be discovered that they haven’t actually been near a conflict – in fact they are usually the ones who regulalrly go AWOL as they are about to ship out and are found cowering in mummy’s loft. The real heroes don’t brag about it so wind your neck in, you goon.
And save your racist idiocy because we are not interested – at all!
Incidentally, I lied about being sorry that you didn’t come up to the standard required to join the cops.
(Apologies to everybody else for the poor spelling of regularly – red mist blinded me!)
It’s a bit worrying that someone so incapable of logical thought a.d so prone to hysterical frothing was given access to firearms.
Still at least you don’t have them any more. I imagine they keep you away from sharp objects as well.
Reads like DCI whatever Haslam to me.
Gold command now eh!
Yawn……..
Sorry i know paras, marines, pathfinders, royal logistics, green jackets, pathfinders, special reconaissance
Regiment, forward artillery observers and pwrr who habe all joined the job you clueless moron.
Go take your face for a shit.
The gold/silver/bronze is across the emergency services and military so that if something happens requiring multiple co-operations between the different services, people know who is who. That’s why. Bumder.
Swap the woods for some tower blocks and you have just described many of my shifts over the last few years!
Half the shift up on the roof in the freezing wind, huddling together like penguins with a very ill frightened girl in the middle, trying to stop her from jumping.
Then the ones we don’t get to in time…..the young man who jumped off the bridge, we pulled him out of the icy water a few hours later.
As has been said on here many times before, these jobs ‘count’ for nothing to the SMT and the bean counters, but they are a massive part of what we do and why we exist.
… but they count for everything for the person you save.
And “death messages” too… i remember i once got sent to an elderly couple to tell them their eldest son had been found hung on New Years day. And control had the cheek to tell me i was taking too long at the job because i refused to leave distraught and grief stricken parents until one of their other children could travel over to sit with them.
These are the jobs that “dont count” on the targets front… but are invaluable to the people we serve during these traumatic times.
I don’t know about anyone else, but one of the worst experiences of my life was when a drunken jumper slipped and fell as I spoke to him. Watching him fall 40 feet onto concrete and break his neck took for ever. To this day I still hate dealing with jumpers in case another one goes, but if we don’t deal, who else will?
The one case from my service that still ‘sticks’ after more than 30 years is an 80yo lady who went out to Bingo in the village one night, and was next seen a week later in the river 8 mile & 2 bus rides away. Trying to lie convincingly to her husband – and NOT to ‘lie’ to the Coroner – but get an open verdict.
Okay,thespeakingclockissponsoredbyadvisory.buyanaccuristwatch.
Ignore this. iPad window went all skinny!
I can tell this whole speaking clock malarky is making you very angry. Breath….
Guv’ frrom your detailed description of your geographic search area, do you not think that your Farce may guess where you work? Or have you been creative with your description to fool the powers that be?
Trust me – that is every and any force ……!!!
And I’ve worked in several force areas oop north
Is this a wah? (:-))
So the dog would have been no use then !
It would have shown far quicker that it would have been a negative search therefore freeing all those resources far quicker.
Please boys and girls don’t let the BA_ _ _ _ _ S I mean SMT get you down. Thank god I’m retired it was bad in my day when I left the Met in 2008 but it is definitely getting worst.
My advice to any young PC is get off team (sorry) and find a cushy little number then study for Promotion and take it as soon as possible. I know that is not the done thing but it is the only way becasue No One gives two hoots about you as a person except hopefully your teammates.
The other reason is the higher up the ladder the less sh_ _ you deal with.
Keep safe out there.
I was watching one of these one hour long TV programmes about the police, and an officer said that he had to report his progress to his “pursuit manager” and I wondered what a “pursuit manager” was ?
Can you guys at the pointy end tell me please ?
I assume it’s similar to ground commander in the MPD. Basically the person calling the shots in a vehicle pursuit. In some farces I believe it’s an inspector in the control room. In the Met we try and hand over to the helicopter as they have the best point of view.
Up North we hand over to anything faster than a 1.6diesel with 100,000 miles on the clock.
We’ve got 1.7TDIs! In your FACE!!!!!
Thank baby Jeebus for big BMWs!
Yeah, but how many miles on the clock?
One West London borough PC recently embarrassed his local SMT by asking Hulk Hogan when the two BMW area cars with 135,000 miles on them were going to be replaced!
Only got one Focus on our patch, everyone says it’s slow as fook.
135k? Holy… Given the kind of treatment they’d receive in the course of duty, I have to really wonder (and worry a little, if I’m honest) at what kind of state they’re in.
On the Focus, the one bright side I suppose is (assuming you’re not lactose intolerant) that you’d never be without a mid shift snack should the pangs hit.
Obviously, they are fucked. Despite being well looked after.
BMW 325D, in excess of 105,000 miles and on its 3rd engine. One shits thee not.
yeah, the astras aren’t exactly quick, not with 90k on the clock!
and we have new focus’s now, which are made of cheese and have awful handling, crap gearboxes and absolutely no grunt in third gear.
Awful handling focus? Are you mad? Ours are great. The Hyundai’s are better than the Astras too. Just a bit plasticky and with really annoying buttons and sirens that take a while to shut down.
They tend to break easily too… Bit like the last generation vectra area cars….
well ok, we’ve got a 59 plate focus which goes like the clappers, but then we have two 11 plate focuses and they are shockingly awful!
Currently running an 09 plate Focus with 108,000 on the clock. It was in getting serviced recently and we asked the fleet manager not to change it when the time comes.
It’s just running so well, much better than the newer ones. If we can, we’ll keep it and run it until it stops.
First in grabs the keys for it.
We have a Volvo V70 DIESEL as a Divisional traffic Car… it is 12mths old and spent more time at Volvo than at the nick.
It is shit, unfit for purpose and really does not handle. We have a pool BMW 330 diesel with 138k on – it pisses over the Volvo performance & handling.
Other than that Astra 1.7dti’s all the way – not bad considering. It rumoured we are getting the new Astra’s next – 1.4 diesels!!!!!!
……….. 1.4 Astra’s eh? …. yup they’ll perform well in pursuits won’t they … ffs!
It is still better than my old nick where they had a few Corsas on trial.
They were dreadful – I pulled the seat belt across to click it in and the ENTIRE inside panel covering the seatbelt mount pulled off with it and couldn’t be refitted because the moulding had snapped off.
I think it may have ended up in bin (the panel, not the car, but perhaps the car should have been chucked too).
I thought the Astras were decent enough – they showed a fair turn of pace and handled ok I thought. Never understood why they purchased ones with half leather sports seats though – no one above 5’6″ wearing kit could fit in the buggers, and the leather got torn up by handcuffs.
Never much foresight is there.
“but then we have two 11 plate focuses and they are shockingly awful!”
Ah, I know what the problem is, and how to rectify that, but we’re not allowed to mess with job motors like that are we …..
1.6 TDI’s? Lucky barstewards.
1.3 TDI astras here……….
Sherpa van with two probies to weigh the back down- nothing faster in South London!
Not many probies left now!
Not to blow smoke up your arse boss but sometimes you really do hit the nail on the head. This sounds like a typical shift in our so called large metropolitan force.
If we haven’t got a helicopter and sometimes have no dogs on for the entire force I dread to think how the county mounties fair.
My force area has a population of roughly 750,000 and we worked out that at times last year there were less than 100 response constables on duty.
I don’t think its over the top to say that not only have these cuts effected the front line dramatically they have already cost lives.
I’ve attended more sus circs resulting in dead people in the last 18months than I have in the previous 5 years. We used to get there in time to use innovative skills like our powers of arrest and CPR… Now we just arrive far too late and write about the dead person.
“My force area has a population of roughly 750,000 and we worked out that at times last year there were less than 100 response constables on duty.”
750k people is about 3.5 Met boroughs and the usual size of a response team is 20-30 bods.
Sounds about right!
20-30? You are shitting me surely?
What the hell is going on with all these prisoners escaping? Another one has just gone after officers threatened by gunpoint… breaking news on Sky… http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16156643
Do we reckon they would have tried pulling that on two American Correctional Officers armed with a pistol each and a shot gun between the two of them.
We in The UK are an absolute laughing stock. I’d say its like taking knives to gun fights but its actually worse.
Like taking a tin of condiment and a metal stick to a gun fight.
I quote from Sky . “t is understood the Highpoint inmate was a category C prisoner, who was considered unlikely to make a determined escape attempt”.
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Well, clearly if he has got mates with guns then he is high risk. If he is in prison and he doesnt want to be there, then he is going to try and make a runner. And clearly this was well organised, so all that bull about prisoners not being allowed internet access or mobile phones is a load of twoddle.
Im assuming they call their pals to come and pick them up from mobiles hidden in dark places… Dont they do searches anymore?
I was spent a night cycling around our local parks in the absolute pissing rain, to the point where I was wet all the way through, trying to find an elderly, vulnerable misper, who had wandered off. it was a foul night, we feared the worst and were doing what we could with what we had.
after a few hours, we received a call from a, uh, neighbouring force, explaining that the old duffer had been taken in by a kindly stranger and was drinking a cup of tea.
he had been there for hours, but the, uh, neighbouring force hadn’t bothered to send anyone to check on him, and supposedly hadnt bothered to even take basic enough details to communicate that he was safe and well.
I wasn’t impressed, although I very much imagine that the neighbouring force were under the same pressures as the rest of us, and a safe and well elderly man sitting and drinking tea isnt exactly a priority call!
Mispers… how I loathe them!
My fave misper was a little shit aged 16 from a wealthy family who “got bored” and spent 3 days at a friend’s house without telling his parents where he was.
I retrospectively agree that I was not suitable J.O.B material as I wanted to smash the litlle turd’s face in when we found him at the first port of call (after the requisite 3 hours on the form, talking to his family, inspecting his bedroom and finally getting the Guv to look at it).
We brought the sullen oaf home who told me and my partner in the car that “I fancied a break” and when faced with his father’s controlled anger and his mother’s sobs simply shrugged. I managed to keep a lid on my temper and told him to apologise to me, my partner and then his parents.
To REALLY ice the cake he said “sorry mummy”.
Irony was that my Tutor Constable (who was on Leave that day) told me later that to have torn him a new one would have been appropriate and that if he’d been there he’d have made the little bastard wish his mother had had a headache the night he was conceived.
Just one other thing.
I watched this weeks Coppers and was amazed at the number of prisoners handcuffed in that strange front palm to palm position.
It not safe. Stop doing it. Please.
You mean the position that is uncomfortable and makes it harder to run away?
I can see why some forces don’t allow it anymore.
And also the one that could allow the DP to reach over the headrest and strangle the officer in the front Or yank the handbrake on.
Only if single crewed obviously.
Not sure I remember this right but wasn’t this the reason a copper was killed transporting a soldier he had arrested who grabbed the handbrake.
Can’t check facts at mo but was 4 or 5 years ago.
You are correct, cant think of the exact year though.
PC Joe Carroll, Northumbria Police. It was 2006 I think. The offender was a Royal Artillery Staff Sergeant based at Albermarle Barracks in Northumberland, arrested for being drunk and disorderly I believe in the Hexham area way out in the sticks. No cells available (even as far back as then) meant a long transport detail into Newcastle along the A69. The offender was not handcuffed as he had until that point been compliant. He yanked the handbrake at about 70mph. The panda rolled several times and Joe Carroll was killed. Force policy thereafter, and to this day, is that every arrestee is handcuffed, and an explanation of extenuating circumstances is due to the custody sergeant whenever cuffs are NOT used. I must say, we still have a lot of nonsense up here, but for the most part we seem like one of the better forces. And Sue Simm really is a good sort. The job’s still fucked, but listening to some of you guys I consider myself lucky.
She’s ‘a good sort’ in comparison to the idiot Craik and she is indeed very personable (I’ve even seen her hand out the odd hug which was unsettling) but she’s still a political animal and more concerned about performance, targets and managing public perceptions than actual policing, but I don’t think anyone who gets to be CC can be anything else these days.
True enough. Craik was a buffoon, and much of Mrs Simm’s command team are much the same. But she has the advantage that when her command team try to bluff her, she goes home and hears the truth from her husband who’s still a sergeant. She is very much on the side of the PC’s, sergeants and to a lesser extent, the inspectors. But anyone above that rank is fair game for her wrath. Which I’m informed is somewhat formidable. I have a lot of respect for her, have yet to hear of any colleagues who have had a bad experience or a bad word to say of her. And she hasn’t had to have any personally embarassing logs deleted! Trust me, she may have to play the political game, anyone of her rank can’t get away from it in this day and age, but we could do a whole hell of a lot worse.
Yes, I’ve heard her being sharp with an DCS and he deserved it. Only come across her husband a couple of times and he seems ok.
She is one of the most prolific at stealing officers Injury on Duty Pensions, unlawfully, and contrary to all the stated cases on the issue. Just saying.
And Sue Simm really is a good sort.
yes
True story. An officer in my old force got stuck on for using cuffs on a female because she was compliant, the officer still got a written warning.
He brought up this exact case, the case was dismissed as irrelevant.
Same force as you and I’ve known the other officer involved for a long long time. He spoke well of Mrs Sim
I’m not going to go into more detail as it would be easy to work out my name..
Suffice to say, in my two years, I have never and will never cuff palm to palm.
Fully compliant prisoners get front stacked.
Yes. It’s the reason for abandoning front palm to palm by our OST trainers cite every time.
Thats why I always cuff to the rear. Nothing in the manual that says you can’t either.
Front palm to palm was barred in my old farce – front stack however was still permissible,
Back to back is uncomfortable and makes it difficult to run away. It also prevents the issues highlighted below.
I’ve just seen on TV that a yank cop is shot on duty every other day (Hopefully not the same one).
If any yanky colleagues read this forum stay safe out there!
Back on topic non compliant handcuffing now affords compo money for our local shits so we’ve had the usual white flag waving emails asking us to rethink before handcuffing prisoners.
I’m personally of the school that everyone is getting handcuffed until they can prove they’re not a risk to my health and not the other way round.
Safety first – I intend to go home at the end of my shifts.
Surely – by definition – non-compliance = cuffed?
I’ll generally use front-stack for compliant unknown risks, with cuffing to the rear employed if I’ve had to use force.
Front palm-to-palm seems to be a Traffic t’ing in our farce, almost every prisoner they bring in is done up like that!
Quite early on in the game the closest I came to getting stabbed was during arrest over a five quid bottle of vitamin tablets…………….. REAL CLOSE !
After that EVERY F*CKER I locked up was cuffed. After we got the speedcuffs I continued to carry my old Met Hiatts.
Living proof folks, it works…………….. I made it out alive and in one piece.
Also for what it’s worth we should NOT be transporting prisoners in cars. Vans please with secure cages. That way even they manage to pull a weapon out of their arse they can be safely extracted.
I put that on paper to the SMT. They were about as interested as a turkey is in Christmas……………… They didn’t give a monkeys……….because they didn’t have to.
In my custody offices in the past, any officer, of any service, reputation or rank who brought in a body in anything other than a rear stack would be asked (quietly and privately) to explain why. There is never any excuse for front palm-to-palm. Rear variations may be due to non-compliance. Front stack only permissible in the rarest of circumstances. Probationers with tutors were spoken to with tutor as they should know better. But rear stack is the safest and most practical. The number of aggressive drunks I’ve seen in front pal-to-palm makes me shudder. Usually brought in by officers who should know an awful lot better.
You don’t see it that often, then?!!!
Back to back sucks.
Try doing the hands-passed-under-your-arse trick when in rear stack.
You can’t.
Rear stack wins. Use it every time
Spot on.
Yep
Gods honest truth here – A/Commander Ferguson (Hero of the riots and all round legend) has been seen to leave the nick in his white 15 year old Ford Fiesta.
we need a like button on here….
I do love my job. But I fu@king hate, in no particular order, politicians, the media, any rank above inspector (in my experience) and bovril.
I hate Archers, the Archers and Jeffrey Archer. They’re all deceiptful cowards.
Bovril rocks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-16730470
A police chief has said further cuts to his force’s budget would take it to “a metaphorical cliff edge”.
Refreshing honesty for an ACPO type!
WOW! What a shock that must have been to him?
The trouble is he, and the rest of his Acpo clones didn’t get to grips with the real financial problems (not pay and pensions) earlier. Instead they nailed their New Labour colours to the mast and couldn’t waste enogh money.
Instead of supporting the attack on the federated rank’s pay and pensions they were very well aware of the pension time bomb (throughout the public sector) but chose instead NOT to tryt and save money and spend responsibly on the things that matter BUT were happy to spunk millions and millions of taxpayer money – and yes of course that includes police officers and staff – on a whole raft of nonsense from diversity, outsourcing, various community projects and other social engineering matters, failed IT projects, unnecessary force merger projects etc etc etc then maybe, just maybe, the police service across the UK wouldn’t be heading towards the very real cliff edge it is.
This mealy mouthed CC is part of the problem not the solution.
Agreed.
I also think its disgraceful that he has 34 years service and is still there when so many have been a19′d.
He may be the best thing since sliced bread, but it is clearly 1 rule for them, another for us.
I think they are all a shower of self serving, talentless bastards with poor management skills. The CC in my force has been out visiting local areas lately. I won’t deny that he can be quite personable, but he was quite open about the fact that his job is beholden to the public and not his staff – to a degree I accept this, but without quality staff you don’t get a quality service, and no one I know has any confidence in ACPO. They have feathered their own nests i feel, they won’t be hit by the pension/pay issues will they. Morale is lower than a snakes belly and how the job can say its an Investor in People I don’t know.
I enjoy my job. I just don’t think we have good leaders.
Although he still kept saying the further cuts would be a problem because there would be less neighbourhood policing and PCSOs. IMO they are both luxuries if 24/7 policing is cut to the bone and beyond.
Oh dear, will he be getting a Reg 14 for undermining public confidence?
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9477928.Dorset_PC_facing_disciplinary_following_Twitter_rants/
“Predictive policing”. Some twat thinks it’s an”exciting initiative” !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/predictive-policing-could-come-to-uk-6294668.html
WTF on team you know where the crime is as you keep getting called there. You know who the Slag is because you keep arresting them and the courts let them out. We don’t need another tool for the SMT to use for promotion. But may be they need a system to say where the crime is because IRS been so long since they were on the streets.
Predictive Policing used to be called knowing your patch your villains and getting good intlel then having enough bods to deal with it.Simple easy cost effective
Mind you I knew it would be the next big idea
Exactly. One story of my dads which stuck in my mind was that they knew a certain person was out of prison and that he was probably down the pub on a Friday night. So it being chucking out time they waited outside his house. A few minutes later the offender pulls up in a stolen car, having decided to drive home from the pub despite not having a car. Instant arrest.
I remember ‘Predictive Policing’, but it was called swamp 81 when the Met used it….Look how well that turned out.
In Essex the Police use Essex Search & Rescue (part of ALSAR) a lot for MISPER searches, they have all the necessary equipment (most of which they supply themselves) and are extensively trained for exactly the situation you describe. I am sure there is a ‘Ruralshire SAR’ group that could have been called, and I bet they would even bring spare batteries.
Ah yes, batteries. I knew I had an Airwave related nugget to bring to the party.
If your battery is over three years old (and really, two years is the recommended life span) then it won’t last a shift. Think about it – these things are charged and recharged several times a day and usually taken before they are fully charged. If you don’t know how to check the date then ask your Airwave team.
If you want a nice bit of evidence for promotion,make a fuss and force the job to update your batteries – they will, esp if you start on officer safety grounds. In Metrocity it’s already been done but lots ignore it. Check Aware for details on the Airwave page.
They were used the previous night and didn’t find him, mainly because he wasn’t there but in another county.
Join the Australian Federal Police
and feel the Prime Ministers Tits.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3795088-3×4-340×453.jpg
Unlike ours who has no tits……………come to think of it no balls either
He IS a tit.
…and if Gadget was offered a company BMW tomorrow he would bite their hand off for it with absolutely no questions asked as to the morality or otherwise of the offer. Guaranteed.
Me too, but being cheap, they could buy me off with a Hyundai or a Skoda or something.
I’d settle for an issue pair of boots
Gadge, are you sure Ruralshire isn’t Geordieshire? It certainly sounds like it. My pet hate is the shiny german machinery in the command block parking spaces. They have to have them though, as they tell us their positions are the equivalent to the directors in a large company, and their ‘benefits’ should b commensurate. Now that they’ve forgotten that they are in fact senior coppers, they get on with the job of ‘managing’ the ‘company’ and in common with a large civvie organisation, the workforce are treated as an expense, not an asset.
Oh dear [Insert favoured profanity] Downhere in metland , “they” are promoting a new wave of targets and measures (that Ms May said we dont have) as “crimefighters” .
A monthly meeting for Senior, Borough and OCU commanders replacing the old “strategic preformance meetings”
Which I quote ” A new set up designed to identify preformance areas, It should not be feared but fully embraced as it is an essential part of improving preformance ”
[Insert favoured profanity]
/* bangs head on table
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-382982/Murdered-Pc-loved-local-bobby.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-391942/Tragic-clash-old-fashioned-cop-selfish-drunk.html
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5231578.stm
Acpoo – It’s not what you do, it’s how you do it!
In my nick, the only unmarked car fitted with blues n two’s was taken off us. Apparently, some Supernintendo from HQ needs it. Needless to say, it’s gathering dust at HQ!
I know we have been through all this SNT/Neighbourhood V Response before and it all varies depending on the Force you work in. As a Beat Officer, i can foresee it being not too long before we are disbanded and absorbed back into ‘Response’, despite it going against the local brainwave/reorganisation model. Our Response respond, but don’t pick anything up so the investaigation etc is not burdened on them.
So, in our Force it is Response who are laughing at us, as we are their dumping ground. The new policy dictated that they won’t carry crimes, it is a dump and run for us to follow anything up. So now, the excuse as to why people don’t see me on the streets…..i get all race/disability/vulnerable/hate crimes, i get all outside enquiries, all RTC interview enquiries, IOM visits, DV follow-ups, ASB visits, council meetings, vulnerable adult professional meetings, local speed enforcement(due to council complaints), every local initiative with Trading Standards, Environmental Health, VOSA, Search Warrants to execute, all Local Action Plans to update with visits to same(currently 11 on the go and monitored to ensure i am doing them), backing up response at MISPERS(don’t do it disgruntled of course), all the crimes i have picked up from my weekends of walking the town at weekends, Crimestoppers and Intel taskings…..that’s enough for now.
There is no queue of Response Officers wanting to join us and the percentage looking to come off is approaching 50%. Unrealistic expectations from the public and gaffers who think we should use SARA and PAT to resolve everything…. On top of all that every office person likes to copy in your supervision in ‘bollocking emails’ because you haven’t put their task as a priority as opposed to all the other jobs you have got.
I consider myself a fairly well motivated officer, but it is getting a bit too much for me. Other, less motivated officers have now adopted a ‘proactively disgruntled’ attitude, so that might explain a less than happy response when called on for searches for MISPERS. As you know, such a job means a shift gone by without getting any of your work done, and for us another threatening email for failing to action any of the above.
Most Officers on the team are not afraid of hard work, there are some very good officers, but we are drowned in a sea of accountability still waiting for the lifeboat that the Home Secretary said was coming. We still have an ASB Officer not taking out ASBO’s!!!!
But leaving my ‘ghost town’ of a nick that once used to buzz with active officers, i make an infrequent visit to our HQ, the streets of which might not be paved with gold, but are paved with ‘canteens’, ‘gyms’, ‘plush reception rooms’ and ‘work place car parking spots’. All those bobbies that used to fill our shifts years ago…..i’ve found them. Now it’s my turn to hide and see if they can find me!!!
This is so frighteningly close to Ruralshire Constabulary, actually the very nick I work at, that it is untrue!
A lot is said on here about the wastage of money and resources made by ineffectual SMT’s across the UK who have comletely forgotten what it is they and their officers should be devoting their time and energy to. In the forthcoming elections for County Commissioners, who would vote for Sherrif Joe Arapaio of Maricopa County in Arizona, who seems to remember exactly what his job role is all about:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the “tent city jail” to save Arizona from spending tens of million of dollars on another expensive prison complex.
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He banned smoking and porno magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but “G” movies. He says: “they’re in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave.”
He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer’s money.
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn’t get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel he replied: “so these morons will know how hot it’s gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.”
He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, “This isn’t the Ritz/Carlton. If you don’t like it, don’t come back.”
He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed- wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees. “This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace,” said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. “It’s inhumane.”
Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. “Criminals should be punished for their crimes – not live in luxury until it’s time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can’t afford to have for themselves.”
Wednesday he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: “It’s between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!”
Way to go, Sheriff! If all prisons were like yours there would be a lot less crime and we would not be in the current position of running out of prison spaces.
Any man who fantasies seeing other men in pink underwear gets my vote. Stand in the forthcoming elections Jack!!
I think inmates should have to wear their own clothes, alternatively pay for the clothes given to them in prison.
Why should we pay for their clothes?
And making them all wear pink is just silly btw.
Equally, they should pay for meals, and ALL be made to work.
They are easy to spot if they make a break from prison in their pink clothing. After all the prison is a long way from San Francisco or Broadway.
Well, any bright orange with “prison in ———ville” would do just fine.
The pink clothes came about because the lags stole all the macho coloured ones.
Sherriff Joe’s next trick is to investigate OBAMA’S Constitutional eligibility to be POTUS. Whatever your opinions there is no doubting his moral courage. Would any ACPO clone has such courage?
Sherriff Joe
MY HERO……………….A man who lives in the real world.
Utterly un-imaginable for that sort of thing to happen in the UK.
Which is a shame, as it all sounds rather sensible.
Whilst I’m totally in favour of elected police comissioners is this country, I don’t think we should import any ideas from the repugnant, sordid and disreputable criminal justice system and policing currently in force in the United States, and especially the aforementioned sheriff! Newt Gingrich lectures – that would be on a par with lectures on British history from Nick Griffin!
Newt Gingrich lectures – that would be on a par with lectures on British history from Nick Griffin!
Really? Has Nick Griffin slept with that many women?
Here here! Well said!
Just Announced (BBC)
Lowest number of Police in England & Wales for a decade.
6000 down on previous figure.
And more to some no doubt.
Still counting up here…the sheep keeping moving about
But this has actually resulted in an increase in Police numbers.
It just HAS. o.k?
Yours insincerely,
ACPO and SONS – “Protect and Swerve”
I find it the reduction in Police numbers a massive cause for concern, but those in our SMT and COG would seem have a differing view. To them it is a “challenge” that we should all face up to and we should all do our bit to overcome this challenge and stop moaning becouse if you don’t like it, you know what you can do.
Our CC has really risen to the challenge, he has really embraced it to be honest! He has been very efficient and as a reward for his efficiency he has now got himself a nice new job and after decimating our Force he is buggering off, leaving somebody else to pick up the pieces. Unfortunately, his efficiency has resulted in 700 officers getting the boot via A19 and 500 civilian staff also being shown the door. Not to mention getting rid of Traffic and cutting our response force in half. Apparently this will give an even better service to the public. Not from where I’m sat it doesn’t boyo!
I was casting an eye of the local papers this week and you often find little gems such as “PCSO BLOGGS tells local parish council meeting that crime in Shitsville has increased by 50% in last 6 months” or “Local councillor says that he hasn’t seen a Police Officer at their monthly meeting for 4 months” or “Gap in services leads to increase in street drinking and anti social behaviour”. But somehow, our carefully managed crime figures don’t seem to reflect this. I genuinely despair for the guys and gals who are holding the thin blue line that is now stretched to breaking point together.
Meanwhile, the Emperors lackeys are telling him that his new clothes look divine darling!
OT but here is some further evidence for Night Jack to claim some compensation from N.I.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/25/times-reporter-email-hacking-nightjack
Bizarrely, I now understand that the same journalist involved is working for the Granuid media group.
That article reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks of the journalists´corruption all around, Times just as the Guardian.
The fact that the Guardian seems to pick up the Times´es damaged goods and spoils galore isn´t much of a surprise, judging by the “quality” of their articles btw.
I seem to remember though that
Judge Eady
( who thought that outing Nightjack was in the public interest)
is the same judge that granted
Giggs
an injuction about not being able to keep his pants on after
FALSE
allegations of blackmail and
WITHOUT giving Imogen Thomas any possibility to answer the allegations in court, as she wasn´t even informed ?
And that Imogen Thomas still not is allowed to talk about it but the bloke is allowed to smell like roses?
How very Kafkaesque…… cause I don´t want to offend Zulu 22´s sensibilities by using a stronger word here.
Apart from the corruption going on at the Times
(why is hacking ok when the Times does it, but not when the NOTW does it?
beats me!
Hello Judge Leveson, now there is a question for you!
methinks the judiciary should have a word with Judge Eady, or even take a closer look at him as a whole.
my beautiful, beautiful rant is in moderation badland?
hm. try try again, in keywords this time:
Nightjack
outed
same judge
giggs not keep pants on
giggs lies to court about blackmail
imogen thomas not alerted about hearing
injunction
kafka
corruption,
newspapers (Times, Guardian, taking over spoils)
hacking ok when Times but when NOTW, why???
Oh, Hello Judge Levenson, maybe you can answer some questions about the above keywords?
okok, guess not even condensed rant with keywords only goes through.
What´s the bad word??
Ouch got 2 years yesterday!
presumably you are posting using a mobile phone which you concealed up your jacksie before being “taken down”?
Only kidding BE.
Its okay! And the term is ‘creasing’ but when I said we, I meant he. Trouble was it was lunchtime, I couldn’t get into to the cells to say goodbye and at 2pm they had whisked him back to HMP Wherever.
same judge
Night Mr Jack outed, not outing football not keep pants on see?
why?
One paper hacks, is bad, other paper hacks, not bad…..
why?
It’s covered rather well on David Allen Green’s blog, though it’s about due a new post.
Very interesting timeline of the whole affair on Jack of Kent ( David Allen Green) blog. Well worth a gander.
Possible Perjury and Perverting the Course of Justice. A bit of reverse engineering employed by the reporter by all accounts.
Taken two years for all the dirt to be dished. I’m still wondering what Rebekah Brookes was referring to when she said that the was more and worse to come.
Also
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9040997/Life-of-crime-is-in-the-genes-study-claims.html
is total tosh.
Remove the children from criminal families in infancy and cut all ties to the criminal family members, and let good people adopt.
You´d see that most, given a good upbringing, would not offend for life.
its the same excuse as “I’m fat because of my Genes.” No you’re fat because you’re a lazy arse who eats too much. “I’m a criminal, its in my Genes.” No you’re a thieving slag.
Don’t understand why senior officers need cars. As far as I can tell our area duty super nintendo does 2 things. Rare supers custody review or (if they’re keen) turning up at decent jobs & getting in the duty officers way. If they didn’t have cars couldn’t stop real coppers doing their jobs
yep spot on
The £50,000 limo makes sense if depreciation is less when they’re sold on.
What makes less sense is getting a £100,000 uniformed bureacrat to do a job that a warrantless admin clerk could do for £30,000…
I reckon most forces could get away with about six supts or csupts just on a duty rota and just dealt with firearms/critical incident management/custody issues/etc and the relevant things that have legal obligations in PACE or force orders.
For the remainder we employ managers on half of the pay and none of the perks, in this day and age we could employ someone from the civil world who would do a far better job than most supt’s.
How often does my C/Supt actually excercise a power in PACE? Not very often from where I am sitting, indeed the bloke openly admitted most of his day was to do with budgets and performance fiddling…
My posts mostly seem to be getting lost in the ether?
I was very impressed the other day when I encountered an officer doing an inreview who had prepared very well, she was a credit to the Job. On the other hand of course I must be careful about what I wish for as ny task is very much easier when officers don’t come prepared.
Full marks to IG for searching for a misper, after all he may have been found dieing of exposure out in the open. I salute the guvnor for his humanity but I hate and detest those who hassle response teams to show results in futile exercises merely to support the promotion of so called superior officers.
Well done to all of you who are engaged on proper policing.
You’re a Brief, yet you wrote dieing?
Haven’t forgotten this so soon, have you?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14898745
I didn’t write it. But as a colleague of mine used to say, “If the cap fits wear it!”
Yeah genuine mistake, sorry I also missed out the t & e from interview or got them round the wrong way.
I’ll put it down to my working class upbringing and my comprehensive school education.
Just to keep your blood pressure topped up, read this speech delivered by the Policing Minister, Nick Herbert yesterday. As far as he’s concerned, everything is fine. Twunt.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/media-centre/speeches/Nick-herbert-speech-cityforum?version=1
Every thing IS fine – for him. His assault on Police pay and conditions is going well, the Federation are not opposing him and soon he will be able to blame the inevitable rise in crime onto gullible dupes call Police and Crime Commissioners – why wouldn’t the smug git grin.
“The days of performance management and whitehall intervention are gone”
Er… no they are not, we have far more emphasis on PERFORMANCE THAN EVER BEFORE.
“We are sweeping away central targets, returning discretion to police professionals”
Er… no you haven’t, again, we have more targets than ever before.
And again, Herbert falls into the old Tory trap or thinking that all we do is fight crime. But then they don’t really believe all this nonsense.
Why is anyone surprised about anything that Nick Herbert says and does. Everything that we are seeing in Winsor (1) and Hutton was all pre-figured, in detail, in a report he wrote for the Tory Police Reform Group in 2007 entitled ‘Policing for the People’ (see the link to his personal website), whilst they were in opposition.
There is more to come, if we follow what he has written – such as forced amalgamations between forces; regional pay differentials; short term contracts for all ranks, etc etc.
Five months and one week to go till my 30!
Since humans share about 50% of their DNA with a banana the ‘genes made me do it’ is just too funny. There is less variation between the DNA of two human beings from opposite ends of the earth than there is between the DNA of two gorillas from the same African rain forest.”
Meanwhile in the MPS the service continue to be supported by the members of the Special Constabulary of whom half now do zero hours
Cannot say I blame them, I used to say (when I was a special) that you can only push volunteers so far.
After you apply to become a PC, go through your 18 weeks, then your tutor phase, then your on a shift then the odd cordon/constant watch you might take on the chin and accept that it is part of the job, you are too late to back out now and it will get better.
Special comes on duty, after a long shift at work, the mrs not quite understanding when you go out for a six hour TOD leaving her in the lurch, you turn up for parade and be told ‘You are on a constant watch/CCTV obs for your TOD’
I will say that it will happen more than three times before you would go “fuck this”. Not saying they are to be given free reign and turn up and do whatever they want but when some shift sgts take the piss and just see them as cannon fodder I am not too surprised.
Smiling Dave is back on the performance bandwagon again: http://dccdavethompson.wordpress.com/
(milestones for reductions in offences)
(milestones for solving and resolving crime)
(some milestones in this area)
(some milestones in this area)
“We met with senior leaders to look at our Strategic Assessment to decide where we need to concentrate” – WTF
Borderline insanity, bloke does not talk in English.
“I liked PC Richard Stanley’s (Walsall) blog”
Says it all really. So Stanley has what he wanted: recognition from the top team.
Emporer’s new clothes all round!
So the DCC likes ‘Dicks blog’ does he? …. rest assured Sir me and the rest of the boys in WMP don’t and think he’s a senior rank bitch who they regularly use as their ‘duty hoop’ whenever it suits them …..
Personally I think the blokes a complete grade A weapons class fister who sucks the big corporate fat one to get ahead on every God given occasion available to him ….. the guys has no morals and is a serious SMT sycophant and ACPO sponsored lapdog of the highest order.
……… He’ll make Sgt after the next promotion boards then …. whenever they are in WMP …. probably atleast 2-3 years ….
I miss poor dickie.
How unfair of the ruffians on here to give him a verbal kicking
chortle
I listened a few hours ago to Peter Allen on 5 live, interview the CC of Gwent concerning the earlier disclosure by GMP CC that they were nearly over the edge of the cliff. The conversation went something like this…..
Peter Allen; How is your force affected by the cuts
CC Gwent: Well we aren’t due to foresight and planning, then what sounded like, blah, blah, blah, blah, ACPO speak, ACPO speak, blah blah blah…30 seconds later…blah, blah I am brilliant, ACPO speak, blah, blah blah! etc etc!
Peter Allen: Okay what have you cut?
CC Gwent: Blah, blah, blah, blah, ACPO speak, ACPO speak, blah blah blah…30 seconds later…blah, blah I am brilliant, ACPO speak, blah, blah blah! etc etc!
Peter Allen: Will you answer the question, what have you cut?
CC Gwent: Blah, blah, blah, blah, ACPO speak, ACPO speak, blah blah blah…30 seconds later…blah, blah I am brilliant, ACPO speak, blah, blah blah! etc etc!
Peter Allen: You still haven’t answered the question, what have you cut?
CC Gwent: Blah, blah, blah, blah, ACPO speak, ACPO speak, blah blah blah…30 seconds later…blah, blah I am brilliant, ACPO speak, blah, blah blah! etc etc!
Peter Allen: Thank you goodbye!
I have to say I never heard so much twaddle spoken by a Chief Constable in all my life, I thought I was listening to a Tory Party political broadcast, she was simply embarrassing, and Peter Allen as much as I haven’t a lot of time for him, was just quite plainly exasperated!
Pre-Crime and Predictive Policing @ Policy Exchange, 25th January 2012. This was mentioned earlier and the long podcast (110 mins) is available on: http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/events/event.cgi?id=405
The presentation was interested, although marred by the disclosure the experiment only works Monday to Friday (no analyst at weekend), GPS missing from cars & radios and currently the three crimes used are: theft from motor vehicle, theft of motor vehicle and burglary. No-one would buy this product now and it did assume there was free or discretionary time to patrol, visit or take action in the identified areas – we know them as hot spots.
The NPIA Chief Executive, Nick Gargan, with supporting (cheering) sorry question asking staff, was not very impressive; he was tiresome about the fate of his beloved agency too.
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As always, another great entry on the Police Inspector Blog!
Love the blog, dont get me wrong.
Cant quite work out why the dig at neighbourhood Teams noticed it in a few of your blogs now. Why is it response officers feel hard done by ? turn up do your bit and go home ? and bat anything slightly complicated to Neighbourhoods or anyone else who will have it. Try getting you arse chewed daily by Councillors, MP’s, SMT, public, council officals, response inspectors and controllers who just want a job off the screen with no perception of how it should be dealt with. In my vast experience in most areas of policing majority 24/7 response, firearms, custody, neighbourhood, CID. I know where I want to be and its not on a neighbourhood team !!!