Assistant Chief Constable ‘Four Forces’ Ian Hopkins:
“Ryan’s welfare is our top priority”
“We are extremely worried about the risks he is posing to his own health by going on the run”
Meanwhile, while our Chief officers are worrying about the welfare of an individual who beats his way through life, no doubt leaving a trail of injured victims, once again we are deafened by ACPO silence over the minimum benefits awarded to PC David Rathband.
Back in F Division, Ruralshire Constabulary, we arrested a drink driver this weekend who decided to give false details in custody. He then blew three times over the limit. Sadly for him (and this is NOT the first time this has happened) he gave the details of a person who was already on a driving ban for….. drink driving! This triggered a remand in custody. The would never have happened if the fingerprint scanning machine had been working and he had told the about his identity.
He then spent the night telling the gaoler “I’m not who I first said I was, honest, I’m someone else”.
“Of course you are son. Now stop pressing the cell button, there’s a good lad….”
The fusion of failed technology and a straight forward moody set of details. You have to love it.
Gadget Note: According to their website, GMP have an ACC for ‘Citizen Focus’, and yes, he does have a degree in sociology!
First?
Welcome!
Why thank you!
Minty. What have you been eating? It’s all round your mouth and it doesn’t look minty.
That would be telling…..
OMG!!!!! I join the hall of fame….. So proud.
We’re all still waiting for our medals…
MacDonalds badges…..
Your resistance to change and negative attitudes are noted.
At LAST!!!
Ha ha well done, don’t forget all the little people now you have achieved your goal.
I won’t let my new found Kudos change me. I won’t flaunt my badge.
The standards are now being lowered because not everyone can get 1st place.
To prevent delicate little flowers from being offended and feeling a bit upset anyone coming after 1st place will also get a medal saying 1st place.
See, everyone is now equal…..
Typical – Second.
Well enough to escape, well enough to return to prison when he is captured.
I tweeted the PC Rathbone benefits issue initially thinking it was one of the DWP’s ‘finer’ moments, like the recent case of them refusing benefits to a man with no legs. It turns out that people with visual impairment have only ever been entitled to the lower rate component of mobility allowance, a rule which is set to change next year but may not do so in the light of the coalition cut backs to Disability Living Allowance. PC Rathbone is receiving the high rate component of the care allowance.
I’d like to say it seems bizarre to me, but from years of experience dealing with the benefits system I’d say refusing benefits to people with genuine disabilities is the order of the day, whether or not they happened to get those disabilities in the course of serving the country.
A less honest man – like a soon-to-be-frontlined Probie Wrangler – might suddenly develop a ‘bad back’ as well.
I think PC Rathbone has earned himself a ‘bad back’ to be honest. He’s got enough on his shoulders.
“Sadly for him (and this is NOT the first time this has happened) he gave the details of a person who was already on a driving ban for….. drink driving!”
Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had all day!
(The fact he keeps doing it is icing on the cake. Can you get him for wasting police time too, or is it “OK” to give false details to the police now?)
I doubt it was this particular guy who keeps doing it, we get people all the time trying to blag us off with false details. People do intentionally give the wrong details sometimes and either end up getting nicked for someone else being wanted on warrant where they’ve given their details instead, or in this case having a night in the cells and put before the first court because they tried to get out of a charge by giving someone elses details. Serves them right really.
No it’s ok.
CPS will say he was drunk and talking rubbish so its not beyond reasonable doubt that he did it intentionally, yadda yadda….
Drunk is not a defence….. Hit your cps with a copy of archies
Come on……back to the real world….of course it is.
Lol- /sarcasm
It’s OK?
So according to CPS it’s “OK” to give fake info to the police (because we all forget who we are and where we live after a few bevvies)… yet the CPS urged prosecution in the Paul Chambers case, despite the fact that the man was clearly making a joke?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/19/nick-cohen-terrorism-twitter?CMP=twt_iph
“…the CPS persuaded judge Jonathan Bennett that in the context of terrorist violence [Chambers'] tweet should be taken as a genuine threat, whether he was joking or not and whether the airport knew about the “threat” or not.”
What. The. HEY?
In the context of the real world – the CPS is the joke!
Good one!
(If it’s a joke, why aren’t I laughing?)
No, you are doubly damned, apparently, because you willingly surrendered your lucidity.
Wouldn’t Ian Hopkins be better off looking after the welfare of his police officers, rather than desire to look ‘pink and fluffy’, by expressing his concern for some scrote. That’s the role of social services not the police. Sycophantic or what?
What I want to know is; since when did we start referring to f*cking criminals by their first names?
Note to ACC Hopkins – we call missing 5-year-olds “Ryan” not 21-year-old delinquents.
I’m so proud of my ‘leaders’. Do they honestly think this scumbag gives a s*** about his own welfare. From what little I know of ruptured spleens, you ain’t got much run in you.
Talking about him like he’s some poor child makes this situation seem even more pathetic. He’s a grown adult who’s made his own decision.
For what it’s worth, my opinion is he’ll be found in a squalid flat shorty either dead or on the verge of death, should it be the latter, he’ll still be as violent as foul mouthed as he can be.
It’s all he knows.
oh, priorities, priorities…
We need to prioritise which priority takes priority over the other priorities…
But does a 1-8 come before a 1-12, or should we add a 1-4 just in case?
“we are deafened by ACPO silence over the minimum benefits awarded to PC David Rathband.”"
Indeed – the same ACPO that suggests we might like to work for time and a half on bank holidays…
The same ACPO who all drive company cars accruing a £7k per year benefit in kind payment to HMRC on top of the car depreciation, fuel, vel and the like.
PS – Mr Hopkins …”"Ryan’s welfare is our top priority”" – NO – our priority is the safety of the law abiding citizens in our City of Manchester – not this scrote who is well able to look after himself.
Oops.. I’m Manchester Cop sorry..the kids are obsessed with fred flintstone for some reason
Fred Flintstone rocks!!!!! I used to love it. Yabbahhdabbbaahhdoooooo.
Apparently there has been a ban on showing the Flinstone movie in Middle Eastern countries.
It seems that in most countries the people don’t understand the humour but those in Abu Dhabi Do!
That is soooooo bad! Am nearly ashamed that I laughed.
I had a job a while back where the offender gave details of someone who was wanted elsewhere in the country by another force. Spent the next ten hours or so with his ringpiece going 5 pence-10 pence-50 pence as custody refused to believe him and set him up for a 300 mile journey to another force. Only when the livescan was available again was his identity confirmed. Close call. For him anyway, we were highly amused!
I’ve asked our custody to check the Livescan for electrical interference from the kettle.
The CDO’s tell me Livescan’s down every time someone puts the kettle on.
If that’s the case, this place is safe from Livescan. Mind you, if anyone ever wants to identify us all, fingerprints on the coffee cups would be more reliable than any HR or fire register.
Hopkins should be suspended and disciplined for bringing the service into disrepute – or ‘harming public confidence’ if you prefer.
As usual it’s the front-line plod who will catch the flak for this ludicrous story, while the office-dwellers and brass who associate only with their own kind wibble on obliviously.
‘GMP Assistant Chief Constable Ian Hopkins: “Ryan’s welfare is our top priority”’
In a sane world, such a statement would be taken as prima facie evidence of the ACC’s incompetence/unsuitability for the position resulting in immediate removal from said position.
Hopefully, one day, we will see the lunatics back in the asylum instead of running it…
(but I won’t hold my breath…)
This bloke has had his SPLEEN removed???? First cold he gets could be the end of him.
No further comment.
Post splenectomy sepcis….. Sounds nasty.
Police… Stop or I’ll sneeze! Who needs an ASP?!
Getting Ryan’s arse back into custody should be the top priority!!
To be fair, maybe Mr Hopkins thought Ryan might vent his spleen on a mop
If Ryan has had his spleen removed does that mean that he is ‘not all there’ ?
(Mind you I had my tonsils removed in 1967)
The conclusion? Our organisation is run by complete chuffing wankers.
“Ryan’s welfare is our top priority” my arse. What an insult to his victims. Is it any wonder people have lost faith in the Police. I mean I’ve lost faith in them and I’m a copper FFS!
Keep calm and carry on.
YCMIU.
I had a similar set of circs with a young driver a couple of years back. He was disqual, but thought he could pull the wool over our eyes. Unknown to him, his mate (whose details he had used) was also disqual! Needless to say he got nicked. When we paid a visit to his house, his disqual certificate was on his bedsite table. He got convicted, mug!
Some poor probationer on hospital guard is going to get the bollocking of his life !!
He can just say “I would’ve restrained him, but there was a risk of injury and his well-being was my number one priority, just ask Mister Hopkins – he feels the same way!”.
Case closed M’lud.
Indeed, you don’t want to be fighting with someone who is missing internal organs and who has a large surgical wound.
Our local hospital refuses to allow patients to be handcuffed, says it is ‘not condusive to the healing process’ and ‘a violation of human rights’.
We say ‘bollocks he is under arrest live with it’.
Met are trialing a great bit of kit. It is a belt with handcuff on either side with extendable strap so the prisoner gets a little leeway to be able to wipe their arse or turn page of paper but If they play up a quick pull on a strap locks their the cuff but back to the belt with no movement and can only be lengthened again by using handcuff key. Hospitals prefer it as they can treat people easier, prisoners get a little more room and officers still have control and dont need to take cuffs off. The job seem to be actually buying a decent bit of kit
You only said it is on trial, they won’t buy it just because it works better for everyone including police officers! That would be the last reason for them to actually buy it!
We have them for transport on planes BUT (hangs head in shame) you have to go on a course to be able to use them.
Grim, same for the met but will be rolled out by OST teams and with a bit of luck will be given to all boroughs in the next year or so.
Hard luck I say. Give false details take pot luck. Lets face it, pre-licescan we wouldnt have known for weeks. I think its a good piece of kit (and I rarely say anything nice!).
As custody officer today I had a ‘awful order’. To remove everyones belts shoes and shoelaces in case they harm themselves. My answer ‘No’. I suppose if someone does eventually manage to kill themselves we would pay a huge compensation bill to their family – far more than PC Rathband will get anyhow. What a loadashite.
I remember a classic situation when I stopped a car with two occupants. Questioning them seperately they both gave the same details.How we chuckled!
A great tip I was shown when I was very new to help get someones real details.I ask them their star-sign.I keep the star-signs written in my note book and HORT1 pad.Everyone knows their star-sign even if they dont follow them.Once they’ve crumbled and got it wrong they tend to start telling the truth.
I dont believe in astrology,i’m a typical cancer.
fantastic
I use that one but I don’t have them written down, if I’m remotely sceptical about their details I tell them they got their star sign wrong – flap ensues!!
Well “Sir” ( read that as TWAT) I hope Ryan gets M.R.S.A and fucking DIES slowly in extreme fear and pain.
PERMANENT REHABILITATION is deffo the way to go for the likes of him!
Meanwhile…
Yesterday I dealt with two foster carers that had three kids in their care,two girls (14,15…) and a 12-year old lad.
They had taken them all out as a treat to a local disco and sometime after the two girls had run off… They had been told off in the car for throwing stuff out of the window and had run off as they were ‘like, fed up right?’. Of course what had really happened was they met boys at the disco and wanted to spend time with them, ergo, cooking up an excuse to run off to join them.
The fosters were, of course putting on a brave face, but slightly frantic… One stayed to give details and the other went off to help look for them… I was given the task of looking after the 12-year old lad.
Thing is… he really got to me. He was such a lovely boy and reminded me a lot of my 12-year old. He liked the same stuff, the same bands, same films. There was, I felt, a little note of sadness about him. I called him into the front office itself rather than the waiting room (where the usual drunk women/men appear from the town) and we sat there chatting for about an hour. He never said why he was fostered and I didn’t ask him but it was obvious it was a pile of crap. He was a great kid and just didn’t deserve the shit cards he had been dealt.
When the local volunteers arrived (we call them street preachers-god squad that help drunk people home etc -good people really…) I gave them the description of the missing girls. I suspected they may head back to the railway station, heh…
Soon enough they found the two girls… and they all went off together. I had a new found respect for the foster parent role and a new empathy for the kids-no matter how irritating… they are just kids.
The lad said, ‘thanks officer, you are really cool…’.
I was choked.
A 47-year old, ex-Fusillier, 20-year copper and I was almost in tears.
Gene Hunt would have said, ‘get a grip you sissy, nancy, Newcastle Brown drinking poof!’
http://shijuronotgeorgedixon.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/he-got-me/
Good on you.
Yeah, get a grip! FFS (LOL)
My point is that the SMT and the Home office will never change and we can’t change them.
We can only change how we behave.
I know that 99.9% of the time we behave in the way we would be expected to behave.
We need to just focus on our own and the good people we meet in the day to day goings on.
It’s easy to get hung up on the scum and the SMT … I do.
But they are only a small part of what we do…
ex-Fusillier
Now it all begins to make sense…..
I’ll get my coat.
lol…
I remember my mate shouting abuse at a Queens Req he shouted back ‘fcuk off you circus pony…’
Made me laugh… lol
Gaffer have you had much issue with a chap called ‘pete’?
He is having a lovely time in my spam queue at the moment…
Well said shijuronotgeorgedixon – you guys and girls at the sharp end need to focus on your colleagues who are out there in the thick of it, together with those good people you encounter on the street.
That said, it’s not easy to forget the scum bags and SMT.
I was seconded to the RRF, with 8 Bde. at Ebrington Bks, ‘Derry, in ’74. It took me ages to understand Geordie.
As you are an ex-squaddie you have my utmost respect and I hope everything turns out well with the PSD enquiry….if only so much time and effort was spent dealing with the bad guys.
I am not a Geordie but ended up with a taste for newly brown… lol
I hope the f**ker dies – it would be proper justice and save a shed load of money.
Perhaps the ACC should consider falling on his sword for being such a top hat. What a pathetic statement from a so called leader, do us all favour and just go you’re a bloody disgrace.
As for the knobbber in the block giving a flyer – lifes tough. Wah.
Off topic, but need help, especially from military types. Is it permissible for Mrs 24/7 Inspector (serving officer) to wear her grandfather’s police long-service / good conduct medal, if she wears it on the right hand side?
Answers appreciated, in relation to a police funeral …
Why the right side? Just interested to know. Hope someone can answer your question.
Left hand side for the person awarded the medals, right hand side for daughter or widow of said person.
Or son – Tony Blair once wore his father’s medals on his right
So where does a son wear his Dad’s medals then?
on the right…..
Whoops. Think my newfound membership of the first club left me dizzy with excitement and therefore confused.
Years ago just before a Remembrance service, a squaddie who will remain nameless checked with his Sgt Major it was OK to wear his grandfathers’ medals on the right – of course said WO2.
On the day, said squaddie turns up with his own gongs on the left and a bloody Iron Cross on the right.
W02 goes into orbit “Get it off you bastard, get it off!”
LMFAO.
Now that is funny
Totally in order as far as I have ever heard. A broach of the force or Regiment badge is usually worn by daughters/widows too. I’m no expert, but I have seen it many times. If you google pics of remembrance sunday in London you should see plenty of evidence.
Don’t forget to also wear the ‘Scrap the Pledge’ band.
I will wear mine…when it arrives!!!!!!
Many thanks!
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/remembrance/medals/medal-faqs#othercountry
check out this link for the “official” view as per the british legion. it would appear that the answer is no, however in recent years it has become more acceptable for widows to wear medals.
Now anyone know if you can wear a medal earned in the service of a foreign country?
Yes but only with special permission.
My force hammers on about PPF and Victim Focus but it soon goes by the wayside when the jobs start stacking up and I have dared spend more than 20 minutes with a shaking, upset victim of crime and I keep being asked by FCR, “Have you resumed yet?”
Have I said I have resumed?
I want to treat people how I would like my family treated.
Not all jobs fit in handy time scales. I don’t drag my feet at jobs but I do want to give the person Im dealing with the appropriate time.
Does my nut in!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Ryan’s welfare is our top priority”
OK what idiot said that! It was his choice to run away from hospital, so let’s not worry about his medical state, he decided to decline treatment. If he dies….his fault.
How about ACPO saying,
“Recapturing this escaped criminal is our top priority so he can be brought to justice. He will also be charged with escaping lawful custody”.
Or I am a tad old fashioned?
Old fashioned or not, There are lots of nasty viruses out there that the poor mite may catch. Heavens, if he gets poorly he’ll have to be looked after at our expense.
What gets to me that, if this violent chav gets hurt when he is caught, then some poor pc will get hauled over the coals for it. Given his recent spleen removal he will not be be in the most robust health. Probably the best outcome would be he gets very sick and delivered back in a big White taxi. Shame the tax payer will end up paying either way.
The ACC may be “extremely worried about the risks he is posing to his own health by going on the run”, as far as I’m concerned, if he kills himself I won’t be the slightest bit worried or upset.
Of course, the ACC could be worried that if he dies, a relative might sue the police force for letting him escape!
Never mind, that’s what ACC’s get their money for – worrying!
I am more worried about who he injures when he commits his next robbery, won’t be too ill then will he ?
Had to go and pick someone up from West Mids, he was stopped by City and gave moody details of someone that was wanted by West Mids.
So he had breakfast in the City and then off to West Mids, got there and they put him on the finger print machine and found that he was wanted in the Met. So he had lunch in West Mids whilst waiting for his next taxi.
Apparently lunch in West Mids was better than Breakfast in the City and supper in the Met
I once knew a bored farmers wife who said she wanted me. I don’t recall going on a livescan machine but she cooked me lunch . . . .
I love it when two occupants stood next to their broken down car lie about which one drove – even though both are pis5ed! Suits me fine girls, you’re both nicked. Their faces are a picture!!! I once nicked three from a Transit van when try blame each other. Moments like this cheer me up no end!!!! Three prisoners for the price of one, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
If that was me giving that press call I would have said
“our top priority is getting McManus back into custody. I’ve seen enough dead people in my time as a Police officer and know how unpleasant it is, so I’d rather not have a member of the public find his rotting corpse because he considered running away from the Police to be a higher priority than making sure he didn’t die from an infection”
Probably why I’ll never make ACPO, I don’t do fluffy.
I like your version better. Does what it says on the tin.
How about “our priority is to return this muppet to custody for a pronged stay without any harm to police or general public”
By ‘pronged’, I hope you’re referring to a long stint in an ‘iron maiden’ torture device and it wasn’t a typo?
Hahaha kKop! If it was a typo, it was definitely a *Freudian* one…
Was a typo, but not such a terrible thing.
not sure Metcountymounty… If it comes to it.. I would vote for you
Ah, drink drives and ship Captains.
Also – First!
You know, I can’t help feeling that you’re not quite au fait with the concept of “first”. I could be wrong though…
Compare and contrast
Manchester
“Ryan’s welfare is our top priority”
“We are extremely worried about the risks he is posing to his own health by going on the run”….from one of GMP’S “Leaders”….ha ha ha
to this from Oz concerning cops chasing and then shooting dead wanted armed robber Paul Quinn last night
“Apart from his death, our officers are involved and it’s traumatic for them,” Mr Burns said.
“From the information I’ve been provided, the Star Group officers acted courageously and were dedicated.
“They followed a person who had twice levelled a firearm at them before the final confrontation.
“Police entered through a side gate where they were confronted by a man with a shotgun.
“Two shots were fired by police and subsequently that person died at the scene.”
sympathy was expressed for the dead crooks family but not for him.
I have to keep reading stuff about UK SMT’S and ACPO to remind myself what a spineless, cloned (where do they find these people), self serving bunch of ladder climbing snakes they are! Makes me glad I moved.
Churchill and Montgomery never cheered for the other side during WW2.
That is EXACTLY what ACPO do!
How on Earth did such a situation come about?
How can the GMP ACPO chimpanzee keep his job after speaking like that?
How can they look at themselves in the mirror in the morning and then put on a police uniform knowing what they have done to a once proud police force?
Can they hear the drivel they spout?
In a hundred years historians will look at crap like this and say it was symptomatic of the rot and insanity which brought Britain down.
Sorry. Rant over.
Did ACPO want to reclassify cannabis because they smoke so much of it?
A quality rant – well said. ACPO=scum.
I wonder what the upper waste of spaces on the force would get in compensation if god forbid they were injured in the course of duty. Say ripped the corner of a well manicured fingernail or tripped over and scuffed a well polished knee (this would mean they couldn’t kneel down and lick the boots of the politico masters)
When o read that article on the news l just smiled to myself, it just sums up the type of person we deal with…
Spleen removed ( for whatever reason ) at a cost of thousand to the nhs, this idiot then does a bunk for the very people who are trying to save him… Doh…
You never know , without the neccessaary medication required, this specimen might be subjected to natural selection and we might no longer waste time and money on this waster… Fingers crossed
I can’t believe they had the gall (geddit?) to remove his spleen and they DIDN’T think, “Oh, hang on, while we’re here why don’t we remove his lungs and heart – they’ll be put to much better use in someone waiting for a transplant.”
Interestingly enough, the medication he’ll need now that his spleen is MIA is insulin. Poor little sh!t will have to inject himself with insulin up to four times daily. Dread to think what the cost to the NHS will be keeping him alive to commit further offences…
Think thats the pancreas. Spleen is basically immune function so would need antibiotics regularly.
Oh heck yeah, you’re right as well!
*buries his head back in the medical books to hide his embarassment*
Furthermore… If he thinks that, by someone calling him by his first name, that we give two shits about what happens to him then he is clearly mistaken .. As long as this little turd doesn’t harm innocent mop while his disease revaged frame rots then I’m happy ….. Oi Ryan, breaking news , no one really gives a shit about ya…
Statements like that make ACC Hopkins a disgrace to his force.
Last night, I watched a BBC programme about the Battle of Britain. A lot of the pilots who flew (and died) for us, were younger than this scrote. The survivors must look at things like this and think “Why the hell did we bother?”.
Then, the announcer says there’s a programme on BBC4 later in the week, looking at the Battle of Britain from the German point of view. What???? Are they having a laugh????
Never hurts to see the others pov…
I think we have to move away from the nation if we are to survive as a species…
Remember, it was good luck on our part Hitler was born then and not ten years later… It would have been a nuclear war then …
Our allies the Poles made the difference in the battle and now we reward them how?
By accusing them of stealing our jobs…
I think we rewarded them immediately after the war.
By banning them from participating in all Victory parades!!!
(as requested by Stalin)
It’s the Beeb and their ‘inclusiveness’ again. Don’t forget, the lefty, risk averse, pashmina-wringing mandarins that populate our ACPO ranks have also infested the upper echelons of the BBC over the last thirteen years.
Battle of Britain from the German point of view:
Epic fail, mainly due to excessive doses of opium on the part of Herman, thus making stupid tactical decisions and allowing the brylcreme boys their finest (and apart form the dambuster raid – only) hour.
I’d watch that, then. Just to see Herman on a hookah pipe.
I really upset a CI on my area (an ex RAF rupert)… he expressed surprise that the RAF sent a Tornado to look for Moat…
I caustically remarked that it was even more surprising they did it on a Friday…
His little face…
LMFAO
Any news on Ryan? I had an awful night worrying about him. Can you imagine what it must be like from his POV? Needing care, medical attention and being hunted like an animal. He must be so cold, wet and hungry after last night.
please let us know, I can’t rest until I know.
Ranter – You’re absolutely right – he’s also probably desperate for a fix or even a clean needle. It’s so worrying, he might possibly end up like our dear friend Raol!
Totally unrelated to this, and I meant to post it ages ago, but I was at the Mathew Street Festival in Liverpool last month and hats off the Mersey boys, there was more brass than a shire horse rally walking about the streets, like actually doing stuff and helping people, even if it was only pointing them in the right direction of something. Would be interested to hear from an actual Liverpool copper but this MoP was impressed.
I see it’s Greater Manchester police that have just referred to the scum found guilty of harassment of a mentally-disabled man who later died as ‘extremely misguided youths’..
What the hell are they putting in the water in that force canteen?
They have shut down all the canteens in GMP…
Too expensive to run…
oh – except the one in the Force Training school. Driving School and Headquarters…..
How strange!
You still have canteens?
The usual cause of a ruptured spleen is blunt force trauma. Quite possibly as a result of a violent man resisting arrest. and already referred voluntarily to the IPCC. His escape is an added complication that the police really don’t need here.
Escape from custody is usually referred to PSD/IPCC, don’t read anything into that if you please.
I was thinking more of a referral as he needed surgery soon after arrest. It won’t be the police’s fault if his health suffers as a result of him being on the run, but it’s bound to complicate any enquiry.
Nah I doubt the cops caused toe-rag Ryan’s injuries. I bet Ryan picked a fight with someone who proved to be badder than him and got handed a kicking.
I hope Ryan’s guts fall out.
Anyone else heard that in the spending review the CPS might be getting axed? Like, entirely? Apparently all charging decisions to be done locally and then just an elite cherrypicked from the CPS to prosecute murders and other big stuff? Let’s face it CPS has long outlived it’s usefulness and is now far beyond counterproductive. Could be just another station myth tho, sadly.
Haven’t heard this one, sounds more like a wet dream than a nightmare.
I’ll get my coat….
Wow!!
This was a ludicrous idea from the outset and totally did away with justice and even a need courts in essence. The CPS (Can’t Prosecute Sorry) and their % successful prosecutions targets meant that courts never got a chance to adjudicate on so many deserving cases. We never used to get it that wrong before CPS and ‘their’ decisions were often subjective to the person making the decision and so many times get changed by their colleagues somewhere along the process line. I’ve had major affray/theft/robbery decisions by one lawyer downgraded to NFAs and minor Public Order when there were even admissions!!!
No – giving the decision making back to the Custody Officer will never work !
I got in to trouble because i went to cps, they came up with some mental extra inquiries for a straight forward job and my sgt let me just charge (full admission, perfect evidence, stone bonker).
Apparently the cps needed to close the file at their end couldnt leave it open. I couldnt care less.
At the moment if we want a job done properly we have to try a work around the cps so we can just get on with policing.
They keep saying we will be able to charge more, but if the decisions are passed to our case directors or the bail department its even worse. we need uniform decision.
Wiltshire’s Deputy Chief is suspended pending ‘an enquiry into an internal staff issue’.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11375507
Wassat all about then?
‘…..he will work on other projects’. Why doesn’t he get his vest and PPE on and go and do some real policing? What would the project be? His garden?
“working on other projects” has a “sitting on the naughty step” ring to it! Am agog, what has he done?????
My bet would be one of the 5P’s it used to be 4 then along came speed camera’s!
For those not in the know
P- Paperwork
P- Prostitues
P- Partners (this used to rhyme with sussy but we’re inclusive now!)
P-Property (inc expenses)
P-Pervert (not me driving honest!)
Ah,
P – Proper
P – Planning
P – Prevents
P – Piss
P – Poor
p – Performance
Failing to plan, is planning to fail – Does the S.M.T. / A.C.P.O. know about this?
P- paperwork
P- police women
P- property
shijuronotgeorgedixon – Did I tell you about the Fusilier at Ebrignton Barracks who was on dog handling duties. He bathed his dog and tried to dry it in a tumble dryer in the camp laundrette…..it ripped the poor animal’s pads to bits.
What about the other Fusilier on camp, who played with his Browning 9 mm pistol whilst sitting in the shit house, who managed to shoot himself in the hand.
Now about the RAF Tornado GR4 operating on a Friday? I can’t have pongos taking the wee wee, when this retired cop served in the RAF Police before joining the civvy cops. I did a year’s secondment to the Army in ’74 as an arms and explosives search dog handler in Ulster. Political correctness hadn’t been even thought about in those days.
LOL… I knew some right ‘paint eaters’…
Mostly good lads like…
My best mate is an ex AME in the RAF … he comes out with some cracking stories about the AME reports he wrote…
Like…
Pilot of Herc… ‘No 2. engine missing on take-off…’
AME report… ‘No 2. engine located after brief search…’
Pilot of Nim… ‘Faulty undercarriage check switch…’
AME report… ‘TMF… fixed. (TMF = too many fingers…).
Pilot of Herc… ‘Under carriage down indicator almost failed’
AME report… ‘Under carriage down indicator almost fixed…’
etc
Never mind all that! Is Ryan OK? Has he been caught, been seen by a doctor, had counselling? Has his family all been looked after? Imagine the stress and worry they’ve been under – I bet the scrips for diazapam and other meds have been flying off the GP’s pad. Are they having counselling? etc etc. Bottom line, has this useless DNA abusing waste of skin cost us any more thousands of pounds since his escape? How much is a bullet?