Idiot with Samurai Sword Vs. Police Dog “Brutus”. The Idiot came second.
At 2.00 am on Sunday morning the Inspector In charge of “Sending Other People Into Dangerous Situations” calls me from the Control Centre on my cell phone. He asks me to get a MAST Team together and get down to Mugabe Avenue on The Swamp. Some idiot is going mad with a Samurai sword.
There are usually four reasons why idiots go mad with dangerous weapons on The Swamp.
1. Disputed parenthood/custody of one/many children.
2. Disputed ownership of State Benefit/Housing Benefit-earning females (mothers of 1. above)
3. Excessive alcohol/drug/both consumption.
4. All of the above.
Once again, Ruraltown grinds to a halt for the sake of one idiot and his temper.
I won’t bore you with the details, but I think the “learning” from this incident has to be: do not charge towards a fully equipped PSU (especially when Police Dog ‘Brutus’ is on a short lead) with a Samurai Sword shouting “I’m gonna kill you all”.
A detailed inspection of the top photo will reveal a complete set of Brutus teeth marks between the head restraint straps where the nose used to be.
The cell phone rings again. It is the Inspector in charge of “Sending Other People Into Dangerous Situations” again. He just wants to remind me NOT to release the dog without authority from some senior officer in bed, half way across the County.
Whoops.
Next time I have a spare 45 minutes or so, I will fill out an electronic requisition form for a new pair of trousers. I seriously thought that idiot was going to kill or seriously injure me at one point. I’m glad that Brutus had other ideas.
“The Brute” as we fondly call him will get extra choc-drops from the team next weekend.
Gadget Note: As usual; the above are real photos from a Ruralshire night shift.
MAST = Heavy blue kit, body armour, long batons, shields & special training.
PSU = A van full of police officers (volunteers who get no extra pay) equipped with MAST gear, taken from an already over-stretched Response Team at a minutes notice, an Inspector (me) and lots of chocolate.
Nice to see the idiots out in full force again. Seriously do these people have nothing better to do with their time then play them vs rest of the world!!!
Oh yeah and gagdet – with the slowness of admin everywhere these days how long will it take for trousers to be replaced…I’ll go withnext year at the earliest!!
You’d have thought that even the idiots would have learned by now.
Unless you have a suitable firearm (e.g. pump-action shotgun) or have a shortish knife and are damn quick with it, you are very likely to come second in any run-in with a properly trained dog.
(Police)Man’s best friend – not ‘arf!
The idiots never learn. Even this idiot is likely to keep on doing the same sort of thing. Well done Brutus.
I just got some new trousers, the label claims they are the same size as my old ones. I can’t actually button them up, they are 4 full inches smaller round the waist. That’s another two months while I re-order. Good luck Guv!
thanks for the explainations. Brutus seems like a dispenser of instant justice
dread to think of what sort of paperwork that lot has created.
Don’t know why you are boasting about this. I understand that a dog in Brighton bit a teenager on the ear who did not stop, as opposed to the right arm (anything else being contentious). The compensation cost £42,500 and the dog was destroyed.
Where do they get these Samurai swords from? Why are they always Samurai swords? Does the Franklin Mint make them and they order them with their crap plates?
Give Brutus a choc drop from me – well done. I do hope the fallout (if any) isn’t too awful.
Go Brutus! The furry land-shark strikes again. And the bleeding-heart liberals REALLY want us to muzzle the dogs, in case they injure someone???
Your PSUs get dogs!?
Joking apart, sounds like a fun night.
Most importantly, was there a detection in it?
Oh come and be my Guvnor. I’ve got Mc Numpty’s son.
Nick Nack, A*s*holes whacked, give that dog a bone. Pity he didn’t rip his miserable windpipe out.
Those fake swords are easy to get hold of. There’s several plaves where cheap sharp sword replicas are available and no ID seems to be required. As a martial artist who now has to be kept under strict rules for owning real swords for legitimate purposes, I’m really annoyed about all this.
I don’t know how you guys do your job unarmed. That guy would be cemetery fertilizer here.
@ Gastank, I remember that story, it made me cry for a couple of days.
@ Inspector Gadget, please tell me there’s no chance that this will happen to your pooch, I couldn’t believe it happened to the other dog as it was only doing the job it was trained to do & if I remember right the guy was asking for it.
Big hugs to you & the pooch, you both do a great job, I wish there were more like you.
I hope poor Brutus doesn’t get any infections after biting the scumbags!!
No doubt the toe-rag will have some no win no fee weasel going after compo
I’ve just waited 4 months for a new pair of uniform trousers. Mind you, I am a very unusual size…34 Reg.
While the PSU don’t get extra basic pay, the overtime opportunities are plentiful. I’m out with 3 serials tonight, all on double time. As PSU commander, I’m honoured to be spending my cancelled RDs doing it for the love of Her Majesty!
Good for Brutus!
That dog’s concept of Human Rights is spot on.
There is a lesson for you all there.
Bravely undertaken work leaving collusive paperwork to deny any dropped balls. Absence of inflatable stretchers in the MAST kit is the main surprise.
IG – Never heard of having to get approval to release the dog…do we do the same for baton/spray/force? Is this just your farce?
You have to get approval to carry long batons in my force. Which is brilliant if it all kicks off at the drop of a hat, which it does frequently.
I love being on a PSU, the banter is the best bit and getting petrol bombed once a year is sooo much fun. Also on the odd occasion they do any PSU training (the proper stuff not the bits where someone else makes a decision) there is an opportunity to baton, punch, push or kick the Ch. Inspectors.
sntpc: chocolate… donuts… same size trousers don’t do up any more – I think we’ve ALL been there!
I think our local village bobby must be waiting for his trousers to arrive, too. In the summer he was cycling about wearing a cycling helmet, hi-vis vest and the cutest little navy blue shorts – and he’s a good-looking young guy. I nearly drove sraight off the road when I saw him…
me: My husband is also a martial arts enthusiast. When he bought his Tai Chi swords and needed to carry them to class, he realised he should disguise them when in public, so he went to the local gunshop and bought a gunslip – honestly! (I took it off him and made him a proper sword bag instead, and so far he hasn’t been shot or attacked by any police dogs.)
strobelwort – personally I find that carrying my gun in a guitar case does the trick very well, it’s soft an padded with plenty of extra space and without that ’scare factor’ for the neighbours.
strobelwort – old trousers still fit fine thank you, old trousers much bigger than supposedly same size new trousers, measuring changed not me!
I hope the dog isn’t in any trouble….glad the chav got what he deserved.
It has got to suck so much being a cop in the UK. I bet it sucks being a citizen too.
Strikes me you pulled the dog off way too soon!
Choc-drops for Brutus!!
I am an “inspector in charge of sending other people into dangerous situations”. This would have been a firearms job if it had been my call. Can’t believe your Oscar Ones expose you folks (and themselves) to so much unnecessary risk by holding back with the ARV’s. Just cos they’re there and they got guns doesn’t mean they’ve gotta use them.
The sad thing is that the 925ers will be discussing this incident till the cows come home trying to find some minor problem with how it was handled and the SMT will be working extra hard to try and pin the blame on someone other than themselves for doing something or other like not responding within the required time frame etc etc etc….
Cynical I know but I bet NOONE involved in this incident will get a word of thanks.
After TSG had one of their PSU’s attacked with a sword that sliced through a long shield we’ve always been told that anything too big and pointy gets dealt with by ARV’s! at least they have taser and stand off distance with bangsticks as an option instead of just a bundle and a risk of losing a limb!
Forgot to say I love the carefully abandoned trainers in the top left of the photo.
Did the susper remove them to avoid getting coppers’ blood on them (normally the only clean thing on these scumbags is their Nikes) or did you have a “officer in charge of tidying up afterwards” deployed as part of the almost inevitable Community Impact Assessment?
Just to say thanks to you, your team and Brutus for putting yourselves in harms way for the rest of us.
I hope Brutus has had his shots. God knows what he might catch.
I’m surprised that I can’t find any mention of this incident on the intartubes, to be honest. I assume that it’s a composite of other incidents.
“Samurai swords” used to be easily available on eBay or from the local fence – sorry, used goods emporium. The manufacture or supply of all curved swords with a blade 50cm or more in length is now prohibited in England and Wales (with certain cack-handed defences). This does not cover straight bladed “ninja swords”, which are still freely available. My sources tell me that once the curved ban has been declared to have been a success, then it will be extended to all swords.
Whether this will have any effect at all on the availability to those minded to use them for mayhem is another question, since absent enforcement, laws only effect the law abiding.
Good post, I like the way you break up the ’state of the system’ posts with cheery little tales like this one! Alot of the replies made me chuckle too!
Et tu………as they say.
SF @ 16 – you need to grow a bit and eat more cheeseburgers old chum. 36Long’s are 10-a-penny round here!
IG, what does MAST actually stand for in your farce? in mine, it means absolutely nothing to do with PSU.
Also, how come no Taser for a job like this? When I was in Metrocity, ARV`s would`ve been sent to a job like this. Now I`m in Ruralsville, Taser at a minimum would be despatched. I can`t believe your farce is even more backwards than the one I`m in now.
I hope Brutus doesn’t catch anything nasty from him ….
Police dogs – service with a snarl
Brutus for President
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Well done, that dog! I hope someone cleaned his teeth afterwards. Remember folks, don’t give you dog chocolate, unless it’s doggy chocolate.
Nice to see the sword ban has worked
Good dog!
I would get such a kick as a dog handler in this situation, rock on brutus…x
personall i say the stupid biliock was lucky not to be shot and i also stand by it LAND SHARKS rock.
speaking as a member of the british military, if faced with that situation whilst on armed guard. i would have not hesitated to “drop him” or insure that he got his dose of 5.56 mm. (almost certainly not politically correct) thankfully my rules of engagment allow for this!
on a final not why the f’@king hell was an ARV not sent?
greg
Brilliant Brutus, now get some good mouth wash l do not like to think of the taste left in your mouth it must be rancid. And get the “human on the end of the lead” to buy you a nice big pack of doggy chocs.
And to the “human” on the end of the lead a pat on the head. Well the human should have some sort of reward even though Brutus did all the work some one had to drive the van
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Last dog l saw that tackled a rancid runt with a samuri sword was a jack russel terrier trying to protect his family, the rancid runt tried to split the poor dogs head open down through the skull so l am glad that it was evened out.
Dogs 1
rancid runt 0
Cooperman029 that was not a nice comment re shooting the rancid runt. It would have deprived Brutus of an good evenings entertainment.
@Oscar One #27
Wholeheartedly agree with you there.
I recall going on Firearms Training refresher when they showed stills of certain situations..one of which was an idiot armed with an axe and coming your way. One of the guys said he wouldn’t shoot. It was pointed out to him in no uncertain terms that an axe is a lethal weapon and I seem to recall that his card was withdrawn.
All the usual drugged up Chav loony presumptions just like when the CMP encountered the Swedish women on the M6, oh except that she had major mental health issues. Now I have no idea which one applies in this case, but if one of your family with mental health issues had this suffered these injuries would you not ask else could have been done. If he is compos mentis and runs the risk then so be it, but how do you know based on the information?
What else could have been done? Surely this is a perfect example of the need for Tasers to be issued to all frontline response offices. Also as mentioned why no ARV backup with baton rounds?
Guv,
I hope you made everyone at the scene fill in a near miss report -part from the ninja, who thankfully was not missed at all. The 9 o’clock jury would have to give that many reports some attention, and might even take a liking to you for filling in so much paperwork.
@Gastank.
I take your points but if someone is running at you threatening to kill you with a sword, then I hardly think you’re going to stop and ask him if he’s taken his pills that day.
If you can come up with an answer then I’m sure that all the chaps and chappesses out there would love to hear it.
Gastank @ 46
The next time you see a crazed individual bearing down on YOU with a samurai sword poised and ready to inflict horrible injuries please, take time to see things from his perspective.
Consider whether he might be drugged up, ill, temporarily (or permanently) insane, drunk, angry at some domestic situation, all fired up because he’s just lost his job or some other equally plausible explanation for this behaviour.
Ponder a while the many and richly varied responses you coulda and shoulda make towards this chap in an ideal world where you have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight and where all necessary responses are there for you to deploy.
And we can read your obituary from the comfort of our armchairs.
This reminds me of a story I heard twice in Metro City – the second time by the Governor who was in charge.
Once night a couple of years back when the Home Office said that we could trial Tazers a siege situation took place whereby the negotiator (N) was in communication with the suspect (S). At one point N had managed to get S outside the front door but could not talk him into giving up. Whilst talking, N communicates with the armed response team and indicates that things are going down hill and should S turn to go back inside, he believed that S would do his dastardly deeds.
Well the armed response team were well and truly armed and bristling with kit that needed proving – and anybody who was around when we trialled a collection of the new batons in the 90’s knows that is going to end in tears.
S turns to go back inside. Baton round officer, see’s his chance and fires off a round only to here a click instead of a bang. Officer realises that he has a dud round and starts his reload drill. S looks up and realises that someone has just tried to shoot him but before he has a chance Tazer officer shoots his Tazer, only to see one of the two barbs miss and land by S’s feet. S is not amused, someone has just tried to shoot him and now someone is using him as a dart board.
Dog man, shakes his head and releases his dog who starts his run to S. Unfortunately, the baton officer has been too caught up with his own little failure and in no time at all has managed to reload and whilst taking aim has not seen the dog running towards S. He pulls the trigger again and this time is rewarded with a bang. S is rewarded with a whack to the chest which knocks him backwards; you guessed it, onto the second Tazer probe which delivers the voltage to fell a bull. Unfortunately the furry Exocet was now upon S who had now wished that he had not got up that morning.
Apparently, after he was pulled to his feet he said the Tazer was what had done for him, he could fight through the other two but not the Tazer. Only in Metro City can we Baton, Tazer and chew a man all at the same time – you could not make it up!
XTP @ 35….I have had since 2pm cheeseburger with bacon and fries, fish and chips for tea, and six coconut macaroons from Morrisons and a fruit Club. I’m ready to take on the world. Thanks for the advice!
Landshark 1, Idiot 0.
Good call Gadget. I take it the Dog was completely unharmed?
@Gastank. “Nonlethal” rounds…They’re not great.
There’s been a bunch of studies on it in the US – averaging out to (feel free to correct me on this as it was years ago when i read the study) something like a 1/3 or 1/4 incap chance per shot.
Gadget, what a perfect embodiment of a proximal justice system. An unforgettable reprimand delivered at the time of the transgression. Do give the four-legged furball a big hug from me.
Danger Mouse, what a cracking tale which just goes to show that the cock-up fairy sometimes smiles on the righteous. I am still laughing and trying to imagine what the incident report for that one looked like.
Lucy
Brutus – Doggy Chocs, and strokes xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Troops – Jelly Babies all round – half price for 600 gram pack at our Tesco Local – You managed to finish 3 kg over the course of the week – well I may have helped with one or two………………………..
IG, I suspect any place else in the world where a person ran at the police with a sword, charging toward the officer/s and yelling he was going to kill them, the person would be guilty of “suicide by cop.”
And that would occur even if a dog, tazer, beanbag rounds and other “less than lethal” options were available.
Sorry folks – the ARV’s were busy on the other side of the County dealing with some kids and a plastic BB gun. The Team Leaders these days are PC’s acting up because they have run out of Skippers and they have budgets for their petrol, which means they don’t default to F Div as much as they used to.
IG, if your force has run out of skippers maybe you should research the issue and write a report on it. Er, no.
There is no contesting the argument that police dogs evoke fear and cause psychological and physical injuries. Many advocates gathered here to cheer use of irrevocable deadly force, may be unaware of the role police dogs played in the total body count.
If the use of dogs in detecting explosives and drugs is now overshadowed by technology, the obnoxious root of their use in slave history is more underlined. What future service they afford is therefore limited to causing fear and injury. As recent as 1976, official police duties included horrific forms of corporal punishment. As agents for the people, any punishment outside humane arrest and custody is now unlawful.
Nobody suggests that police expose themselves to unnecessary risks but police cheering of injuries/deaths sustained by suspected offenders at their hands, is despicable.
Ah – To know so much, and understand so little.
dr grey,it is apologists such as yourself which cause the”us against them”mentality.Do you live in a crime ridden area like some of us have to,or are you in a nice quiet suburban area. Also what are you a doctor of?do you have a website?
MMM…I joined pre 1976 and I dont remember any official police duties involving horrific forms of corporal punishment..
unless you include probationer PCs being kicked up the arse-literally-by our skipper an ex 6 foot 6 Guardsman…
or perhaps that should read a 6 foot 6 ex guardsman….he didnt become vertically challenged on joining the police!!!
What has been done had to be done under the circumstances in so far as the use of the dog was required, although no one has explained why the dog went for the face. I thought any dog that showed tendency in training for face biting was previously shipped off to the Army for use in Northern Ireland.
Why boast about has been done with such glee? It just gives the disreputable view that pleasure is derived out of maiming and injuring others in these circumstances. How different is this from drunken thugs kicking someone senseless before swaggering off into the night full of glee.
Furthermore the actions here do not seem to entirely fit with the ACPO guidance on dog usage. You might not like it or agree with it, but that is what you have to live by, a bit like the law really.
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/policies/Data/dog_training_manual.doc
@Gastank,
Can you blame a bit of “serves you right mate”after the police see these thugs getting away with it time after time.So he got bitten on the face,would you have spoken up if it had been a copper killed or maimed instead,i think not.
Marvellous! Got to love land sharks.
Go Brutus Go… Well done that dog.
Dr Grey l am not a police officer but a MOP
(member of public)
I totally cheer on anything that will give back to those of us who have not broken the law some sense of revenge as the courts are unable to deal with the rancid runts of the world them thanks to people like you.
The thing that makes me laugh (in irony) is that the moment you or yours gets in any kind of difficulty l will lay money you are in there like a shot complaining that the police are not doing their duty, protecting god fearing people yadda yadda.
Technology can not get into the places as fast as a dog, yes the dog may miss things but so will the technology. A dog is already developed but technology is still developing and subject to a lot more going wrong.
As to use of dogs for the slave trade. Oh good grief please spare me.
Since they were first trained dogs have been used to guard a long time before anyone was enslaved.
Go and learn your worldwide history properly and you may just learn that slavery was only colour related in some places elsewhere in the world it had no caring either way on colour.
Also take note please that being “free” in the uk in past centuries was no picnic have a read up of your history especially child labour. It was the rich that thrived… with or without guard dogs.
As one of the “people” the police are agents for l would like to give Brutus, and all other police dogs a big bag of dog choc drops.
Gastank life never fits perfectly into situations l have been brought up on the saying that “The rule book is for the guidence of wise men and the blind obedience of fools”
As to damage give me a police dog who is TRAINED and CONTROLED any day.
If you ever, god forbid have to deal with some of the dangerous dogs l have in my work and many police on here have faced the same as l have dealt with call outs by them for the animals, owned by the idiots of the world. Who have the animal for the damage it can do and the look at me l am a hardman attitude, you will reverse your opinon on which animal causes “fear and cause psychological and physical injuries”.
Can’t you see from your very own attitudes why the Labour Party have done what they have done to the Police Force, in terms bureaucracy and rules (and no I don’t support them or what they believe).
You just play into their prejudices, as being seen to act as a kind of vigilante right wing organisation getting a kick out of this sort of thing.
Only problem is they have the power to A appoint the Senior Officers to oversee their directives and B they can award poor pay rises and know that you are more or less impotent.
Gasbag @70
Grow up mate.
Gastank @ 70
Recognising the generosity of excess coinage given here in personal abuse, a currency never spent may just as well be left on the counter.
“If the use of dogs in detecting explosives and drugs is now overshadowed by technology, the obnoxious root of their use in slave history is more underlined”.
Dr Grey: When did technology start overshadowing the use of dogs in bomb/drug detection? Its news to me!
Your big diversion towards slavery is so leftfield I really don’t understand what on earth you’re on about. Reading it I was getting the same sense of disorientation I get when being subjected to the rambling and irrational tirades my ex wife enjoys so much.
Gastank – the attitudes shown in comments above seem to be nothing more than predictable and unsurprising emotional reactions from ordinary people who do an extraordinary job. The ACPO guidance on dog use is indeed just guidance, not legislation. While those deploying dogs endeavor to abide by this guidance, its by no means an exact science.
Empirical research has shown me that, when considering the criminogenic factors influencing a client excluded from society and looking at their psychosocial needs at the time of a personal crisis like the one described, having a f***ing big dog on your side is always a bonus.
We must maintain a sensible perspective. Discounting one life support incident, 2007 statistics confirm no civilians were quite mauled to death by police dogs – starkly contrasting with 30 innocent civilians killed by police cars on emergency takeaway calls.
A decision now rests with ACPO to permanently maintain police in the canteen whilst dogs attend any calls.
Paranoid Inspector – Good point well presented! Mine’s a bacon sarnie with loads of red.
Another pedestrian killed yesterday I note – its one we get wrong over and over again. Is it excited young cops getting carried away on calls? I don’t know the stats. Its what’s led to “no pursuit” policies up and down the country, which are ridiculous in effect but I do respect the motive.
This latest casualty is worth a mention in briefings folks.
Spitting Feathers and not so bright @ 76
Sending out a uniformed loony in a panda assures ‘loads of red’.
23 Area Trace No Search – Ah, how times change! It used to be violin cases.
Paranoid inspector @ 77 – please explain “not so bright”. I’d be so disappointed if it were merely an ad hominem jibe.
You will be pleased to see that good dogs are everywhere.
The ones here in Aus even think for themselves.
They also appear somewhat smarter than the opposition.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24583317-3102,00.html
Awesome dog-handling skills, and great to see (y)our taxpayers money is being well spent. However, I’m surprised no-one’s realised that if the dog was trained to go for the goolies it would not only bring down the rancid run quickly, it would also result in “permanent contraception” – surely a desirable outcome to stem the rising tide of scum?