A pedestrian dies, six people are arrested and a block of flats is evacuated after two stolen cars collide in Bedfordshire. What a night that was. I say “night” because for the emergency services who dealt with the incident, this would have been the Saturday night shift.
Both vehicles were stolen and were either racing, the drivers were drunk or both.
Of course the whole thing changes if Beds Police were chasing them.
This is how it works in Britain in the 21st Century:
If you are a drunken thief, you steal a car and race it though the town causing a death and crashing; it’s your fault.
If you are a drunken thief, you steal a car and race it though the town causing a death and crashing and the police are anywhere nearby; it’s their fault.
I would like to pay tribute to the Police, Fire, Ambulance and A&E Saturday Night Shift in Bedford. It sounds like a ‘hell of a night’ serving the public.
Also, my heart reaches out to the family of David Gaylor, of Moulton Avenue, Bedford. He was killed as he innocently walked along the road. The latest victim of the liberal elite (no doubt some or all of the offenders were already on some kind of Court bail or Community Service Order for previous, similar vehicle theft offences).
I don’t know this to be the case, but I’ll put a year of my Icelandic Local Police Authority salary on it.
Gadget Note: OK, don’t believe me. But just listen to a Chief Constable.
Oh God how I agree. Without going into too much detail I lost someone who was an innocent in a piece of road madness, it wasn’t just his life that was ended, it was mine too and many other people who will never be the same. It’s one night’s (admittedly horrific) news – it’s a life sentence for so many other people – my heart goes out to Mr. Gaylor’s family. I would lock them up for a long time, I really hope this happens but I suspect from bitter experience it wont
It’s a walk out as often as possible until someone gets really hurt and then its probably still a walk out or at most 5 years actual time.
Instead of simply building more gaols, we should also take stock of the people who are in them.
Should we really lock up defaulters on fines? Attachment of earnings or benefit would seem a much better plan – then the culprit gets the original sentence (plus a bit extra – I would double it) rather than taking up a place in prison.
Minor fraud and theft could be dealt with by REAL community penalties. Not all of these need to be graffiti cleaning, but could be ones that use the culprit’s skills to the benefit of the community. For instance, someone who’s IT savvy could end up doing some donkey-work data-inputting for a charity. For those with no skills there’s the graffiti or the chewing gum.
That way society can get back work of higher value than a bit of litter-picking, and the charity may even get a supporter once the penalty was finished.
Lock up the violent and prolific offenders but find a better way of dealing with the petty once-off (ore even five-off). NB – I regard dangerous driving and burglary as violent offences.
Finally, let’s legalise – but regulate – all drugs. We, by banning drugs, force addicts to commit crime to pay for their stuff, and the supplying of drugs attracts organised crime.
MarkUK @3: I’m going to steer clear of your drugs policy. That’s a can of worms that can remain closed for another day.
I like your community punishments though. In NYC they make people work with the city’s Department of Sanitation (Naomi Campbell, Boy George), cleaning the streets and such. I think that’s a great idea. Give all the petty shoplifters green overalls and litter pickers. I’m not belittling the excellent work of our urban hygienists as they do a much needed job. But if you look at the state of my manor sometimes I just think they could do with a bit more help.
I’d put money on them being on bail.
Simple crime prevention really. Lock them up = no innocent members of the public being hurt/killed.
I’ve lost count of the times I feel that I am / victims are let down by the courts.
Take knife crime, lot in the news about it and the people getting murdered. Government says it will deal harshly with knife carriers.
Bollox. I caught a guy outside a pub with a hunting kinife recently. He plead and got 100 hours CSO. We know he was waiting on someone coming out of the pub, he was going to use the knife.
Where’s the hard jail time for that ???
I can just imagine the people involved in Bedfords awful night and their pre-cons.
Chances are they may have been on bail. I have actually seen people out and about on as many as 7 bails !!
How on earth does that happen ?
For every scrote I take into custody who isn’t on bail, there is another who is. It happens that often.
Even when they do get put in front of the court, they get some ridiculously low amount of hours doing a CSO. One drug dealer in our area ended up knitting squares in some charity place as part of her CSO !
More jails please. Make the prisoners do proper hard time.
e.g spend all day shifting tons of sand from one area of the jail compound to the next and the next day putting it back again.
Until this country gets its liberal finger out and makes things hard for the crims, we are going to continue our descent into a world of shite and utopia for the scrotes.
MarkUK,
trouble with the fine defaulters is that generally, there are the types who are in front of the court once a week at least. Not your average Joe Bloggs who normally pays the fine up.
As for shoplifters, they should do the time for that. Why ?
Well, it is the only way to stop them stealing. They cost businesses millions of pounds per year in losses.
Your average shoplifter will steal each and everyday. You want him in your shop stealing your goods ?
As for drugs, no way would I legalise it. I cannot see how that would make a difference.
Junkies do not take the same amount of drugs everyday. If they have £100 in their pocket, they use £100 of heroin that day, if they have £20 the next, they’ll use £20 that day.
Giving it out on prescription will not change anything. The millions spent on giving junkies diazepam/nitrazepam/methadone hasn’t worked. These drugs just became another currency to use and swap for their next ‘baggy’.
Every drug search warrant I execute ( and I do lots ) will have other peoples prescriptions there.
For those in favour of legalising it, you should come visit the town I police. The heroin addicts are like the undead stalking the streets. So what if it is legal ? They still need money they don’t have to buy it. Their drug use still destroys their lives and those of their loved ones about them.
Anyway, the majority of the addicts I know were into crime before they starting drug misuse. The drugs just came along after. Some were horrible bastards before drugs, now they are junkies and want to fight, they aren’t as tough as they once were.
Drugs are here to stay and we are not winning the war on drugs, but I ain’t throwing the towel in by legalising it.
“Finally, let’s legalise – but regulate – all drugs. We, by banning drugs, force addicts to commit crime to pay for their stuff, and the supplying of drugs attracts organised crime.”
We, by banning drugs “force” addicts to commit crime. Err I think not, they alone make the decision to commit a crime.
How many other laws are there that force people to break them, all of them would you say?, so no laws then equals no crime. Brilliant no police needed any more.
Mike Fuller’s words are a reasonable and accurate view on what is happenning. No Government in the next several years will have the money to build sufficient prisons to cope with the necessary levels of incarceration, hospitals and their demands, schools and their demands, take on the necessary staff within the public sector, adequately equip and support our armed Forces. This will not change be it Labour, Conservative or anyone else because of the financial mess the whole country appears to be in. They will tell everyone to the contrary I’m sure. Expect a bumpy ride. Oh yes, on that little matter of a pay award…………….think again. I am still at a loss to understand how, despite the annual stock excuses of having no money and budget reductions, so many can afford to invest millions in foreign banking institutions. All these provide a service as a duty yet appear to be behaving as they are financial investors.
Make all drugs readily available for a year or two, let all those with no sense/selfcontrol/responsibilty OD and not only do you make crime unnecessary to raise money to buy drugs, but you got several bad traits wiped out of the gene pool too – job done
let’s hope that the pond life in both cars writhed in agony long before the emergency services got there, let’s hope that they have life long ,hideous, facial disfigurement .
Let’s hope they all go on to have long petty criminal careers and that the judiciary gets to see them on a regular basis.
Let’s hope they turn to hard drugs , and die , on their own, in a cess pit of bile , and like Judas , spend eternity at the bottom of a circle of hell , contemplating their sin.
Sorry , I invited a Jehovah’s witness in for a chat and have become all biblical…
next week Buddhism ,where I get my karma back.
When we reach the stage where a “life” sentence for murder cam mean as little as 6 years served then maybe we need to build more prisons.
http://tinyurl.com/4u44ha
Recently a newspaper I saw had two seperate stories. One was a whinge about Scotland’s jails being overcrowded. The second was about lower recorded crime levels. Nobody seemed to make any connection between more criminals being in prison and less crimes being committed.
Ever seen a grown man cry?; put on a horse hair wig, look at him over your reading glasses and deliberately and firmly say ‘five years. Put him down’. I think IG mentioned this in the book, but its a truism.
Works almost every time; no matter how much they hold together in it the dock, there’s not much laughter on the glasshouse metro. Ok, we can discuss whether or not they get long enough or get the right amount of priviledges, but ‘going down’ isn’t popular.
BTW ‘Pete’ we will probably whine until society wakens up.
O/T though relevant to the off-the-map lunacy of your senior managers, especially their obsession with the avoidance of giving offence.
Hold onto your hats or helmets (sic): the CC of North Wales wants the word ‘police’ removed from patrol vehicles because it smacks of ‘English oppression’.
WTF? FFS! I hope they made it up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/wales/3187717/Police-chief-Richard-Brunstrom-wants-police-removing-from-patrol-cars.html
uniform: You forgot to say, “Not that I’m bitter…”
Can I have a quick whinge about charities being used as a dumping ground? First they were seen as filling the gap left when the government didn’t want to fund some bit of social care, now they should take on offenders and oversee their ‘punishment’, too? Why?
And what does it say for the public’s attitude to service to the community (as opposed to community service)? Will anyone doing something public-spirited be assumed to be an offender who’s been made to do it? I was brought up [takes out soapbox, onion and Union Jack] to see service as something you did because (a) you had the time/skills/opportunity/regard for other people and (b) there were things that needed doing and would make a difference to people’s lives. It would be horrible if helping others came to be associated with punishment.
Dave H @ 14 take a look at some police policy documents. The term ‘Practitioner’ is now being use for police officers’.
twoc….. TWOC… How about causing death by dangerous driving?!
I suspect their poor broken lives will be taken into mitigation. Poor little scrotes, it’s all somebody else’s fault. Responsibility, now there’s a word you won’t hear being applied.
Bit like being sorry for an orphan after he murders both his parents….
I have an idea that if the crim was going to get say 6 months to a year, and the judge/magistrate really cannot find it in themselves to jail the fuc…..err sorry poor unfortunate who is really a very nice person; then get them to do charity work. In somewhere like the Sudan/Ethiopia for a year helping the Red Cross etc.
They can then abscond, not turn up etc all they like but they aint going to get very far are they?
For a 2nd or subsequent offence, double the time! No need then to build more prisons. Charities get extra help. The offender gets to know what it is like in real poverty and may…just may learn his lesson.
Wonder if any of the liberal elite will go for that idea!
no , not bitter just biblical
The (law) lord did look down on the chavites and spake unto them in tongues of fire.much admired of the chattering North London party types.
The people of Bedford did demand penance , the lord sent a plague of asbos and community service orders.
The great wigster of bench did not countenance the full ferocity of the (Law) lords ways and demurred spaking thus;
“there are guidelines”
The shyster who sayeth “say no comment ” readeth from the antecedents with his false prophet voice , spaking so;
let my chavites go , for he has just impregnated the holy chavess , and he has applied for a fisherman’s job, and thus is goin straight”
Thanks be to the Home secretary.
Wrong, Gadget. The ‘liberal elite’ of magistrates and judges did not pass the Bail Act – it was Parliament. Call the elected legislature a liberal elite if you like (but it is democracy – got a better idea?) but give the judiciary a break. We enforce Parliament’s rules.
Your Constable’s Oath commits you to bear true alleigance to the Crown, liberal elite and all.
The Liberal Elite of magistrates who threw out my last drink/drive arrest consisted of a hospital porter, a chef from a local Beefeater and a retired schoolteacher. Say no more.
Richard Brunstorm – what a fine ambassador for modern policing.
Judges/magistrates/Sheriffs/JPs are there to pass judgement on wrongdoers.
They have it within their power, when horrible scrotey type who blights a community and stands in front of them, to solve the problem for the good of the community.
If said horrible scrotey type deserves jail, then bloody well jail him.
Why is it, that virtually everyday when I view the latest court results, I feel let down and angry ?
I am not Gengis Khan, I don’t shout out for the death penalty for every offence. I believe that people should be dealt with in a just manner.
But the animals that get put before the courts are let off time after time. The court can make all the excuses they want, but it is true.
We Police try to protect the public, but I cannot see how the courts are ? It’s embarressing. It’s appalling. It’s wrong.
Bystander, do you really think that everything is rosy and perfect?
BTW what has happened to your website?
A few years back some scrotes stole a pair of Vauxhall Calibra turbos (I said it was a few years back!), raced them round the town and sheared a wheel off one when they hit the kerb.
That should have been a warning, but they carried on, at 80 – 90 mph in a 30 limit until they hit another car killing the female passenger and seriously injuring the driver.
They got 8 years a piece which was not really long enough, but I wonder what this lot will get?
Nightjacky@2 – and your point is…. ?
The UK really is a paradise for criminals….which really could be a benefit to your economy if you marketed it right.
“Come to Jolly Old England. Steal our cars, kill our pedestrians. If you get caught, you’ll be out in less than five.
But to be honest, you probably won’t be caught. And most likely, we’ll just deport you anyway. “
My CC, Brunstrom is a walking advert for more public consultation on CC appointments.
The issue mentioned above regarding the removal of “Police” from vehicles only scratches the surface…
If he relied on being elected to his post he would be out tomorrow. Most people I speak to are sick of him. We have a great traffic department but anything else can take a back seat.
We get his policies dictated to us all day every day and most of them are about as far removed from what the public want as it is possible to get.
It is quite an experience being from NW Police. Every time you go on a course or go to a nick out of the force area, you can guarantee someone will come up to you and ask “Is your Chief really saying the following..(Insert quote here)?”
He’s learnt Welsh? So what? I’ve spoke it all my life and don’t think it has made my job any easier. I have been a PC for 25 years and can’t think of when I have seen an English speaking PC ignored or similar by a member of the public. All this bollocks about Police appearing English and Oppresive is such utter shit.
People in NW just want a decent police force and don’t really care too much what language you enforce in, provided the shit are taken off the streets.
“Why is it, that virtually everyday when I view the latest court results, I feel let down and angry ?”
‘Cos they’re obviously ridiculous. Heck, as a MOP *I* feel like that. A copper will instantly recall twenty cases where they’ve got someone bang to rights on something nasty, and they’re let off with a slap on the wrist, and every time you read of these things it brings back all that anger.
People like Brunstrom and Blair are morons. The really sad thing is not what they say, but that they apparently think saying it will make people think better of the Police.
What their pronouncements actually make you think is that our Police “Service” is a complete joke and the unfortunate Police Officers are led by people who are mentally retarded.
The solution isn’t complicated ; apart from reorganising the Police so it isn’t a cross between Social Services and a Data Processing Unit, stamp on people like this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1077401/The-jobless-couple-10-children-rake-32-000-year-benefits–STILL-arent-happy.html
Yes, it’s the Mail and they are fairly way out examples, but there’s a lot of this.
“it was Parliament” . . . “We enforce Parliament’s rules.
Your Constable’s Oath commits you to bear true alleigance to the Crown”
The Crown is not Parliament. I know a few in the army who make this point on a regular basis.
I always thought if a person was arrested while on bail , they’d go straight to prison – as they obviously couldn’t be trusted to behave themselves while outside.
I’ve been wondering for a while if it would not be possible to outsource some of our penal system. A few grand per person per year : I bet there are goverments which will go for that.
Paul @29.
Great. How many OAP’s are going to freeze to death this winter for lack of money. How many families are going to be kicked out of their own home because the financial crises has lost them their jobs and the bank repossesses their home? How many people who have actually paid into the system are not going to be living for free like those f*****g scum.
How can the benefits agency hand out money to people like this? The system must be able to discern between the needy and the greedy.
We have both extremes at the moment. Govt handing out my taxes to rich bankers and to utter scum like this.
Finally, our spirits can be raised by the fact inflation has just been announced to be 5.2%! That means their benefits will rise in line with it so that they are not out-of-pocket.
The benefits system, there to pick you up when you are too lazy to do it yourself. They should be beaten into a job.
There’s always money available for wasters and mates, isn’t there ? I think the family should be given benefits as if they had (say) two children (at most), they can pay for the rest themselves.
People always say “think of the children” but actually what this cr@p couple will do is breed a load of children who think like this.
I don’t have a problem with bailing out the banks providing it’s a Warren Buffett style deal where the public actually get an advantage out of it (in this case, preference shares), but it appears as ever the simple shopper has been done over ; it’s the usual New Labour deal (e.g. the taxpayer gets f**ked over).
Oddly, I recall only a few months back the Government was unable to find some money to pay the Police salary increase.
I don’t recall exactly what it was, but it was a teeny weeny bit less than they’ve given to the banks.
That punishes their children. The solution is to prevent them, and the other baby farmers, from having more children. Let’s see if any politician has the nerve to float a “contraception for benefits” balloon.
Rogerborg- it’s not on the political agenda, even for heroin addicts.
See what happened when one MSP suggested it- the Executive and all the other parties heavily rubbished the idea.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4763137.stm
I remember the MSP calling for birth control medication to be put into Methadone.
I also remember thinking ‘what a bloody good idea.’
Shame they never took it up really.
Oh, right, Article 8. Ewmin rites, innit.
Before some Melvin triggers Godwin’s Law, the crib notes to this ‘debate’ are:
Question 1: Should the State protect the poor innocent children of junkies, career criminals and similar shiftless parasites who choose to raise their hordes of offspring in conditions of abject squalor?
Grauniad Answer: Of course! The poor widdle angels must be given a fair start in life.
Question 2: Should the State prevent such parents from simply squeezing out more children to replace the rescued ones?
Grauniad Answer: YOU, SIR, ARE WORSE THAN HITLER!
Bugger it im going for a pint, anyone coming?
I don’t think the idea that it “punishes the children” stands up. It might to some extent in the short term, but it is likely that if you don’t “punish them” they will copy their parents and live a scum life off the state.
Despite the Mail stories, this is usually a pretty lousy life outcome.
Howard @ 31.
Totally agree with you. I was recently involved in a warrant where the occupant is on disability benefits, £300 per week, rent and council tax paid by yours truly. He IS dealing drugs £1000+ recovered. Complete and utter fuc****.
Two days later I went to a job involving criminal damage. Retired couple he is 87 she is 85. He fought during WW 2 and he has worked EVERY day of his life and they receive £150 per week to live on. His PRIDE is such that he does not know how to tell his wife that with recent price increases he has a choice FOOD or HEATING.
Stevie @ 37 – Mines a G&T (bombay sapphire of course)…
We lost a close friend a few weeks ago when one of these idiots was being chased by police (trying to stop him for public safety) – the car hit the motorway barrier flew into the air and landed on our friend’s car. Our friend was killed instantly leaving two young sons, a partner and parents.
The criminal had been released ‘early’ from his sentence and had immediately done what he usually did – broke into a house stole the car keys and took off. He was sentenced to eight years for causing death by dangerous driving. Our friends family will serve a life sentence. The whole incident was caught on video by the police helicopter and gladly they were cleared of any blame in the incident. More power to the police – I only wish they could be left to do the job the way they need to.
Rogerborg@ 36: it’s not the Grauniad.
Some may think that someone who’s messed their own life up to the extent of needing methadone is in no state to carry the responsibility of bringing up kids.
If you trawl slowly through the story from my link @34, and absorb who’s saying what, it appears that even the Conservatives think it’s appropriate for heroin addicts to have children. In fact, the reporter’s done a balanced job by getting quotes to that effect from all four Scottish parties (the Executive at the time being Labour).
The debate’s over. Society outside Holyrood/Westminster now has to deal with the consequences.
I have been to many a heroin users home, usually uninvited I might add.
I have never seen a home of a heroin user that is fit for children. I cannot see how the politicians can think it is alright for heroin users to bring children up. It isn’t.
I have been to heroin users homes where the first thing we did was to remove the kids as the homes were such a terrible state. The 18 month old boy in a cot crying to be fed, wearing a nappy so heavy it was hanging down, his bedroom floor hidden under a layer of flith that included pieces of broken glass and uncapped dirty needles sticks in my mind. Fortunately, our ‘visit’ got the social workers off their arses and the boy is safe with normal folks now.
It is truly awful to force entry on a drugs search warrant and find some young kids within. What is worse that they are even used to us doing that.
I don’t think the debate is over, it should get bloody kicked back in and thought over proper.
Once again, the politicians being far removed from reality, have not got a bloody clue.
Bystander said: Wrong, Gadget. The ‘liberal elite’ of magistrates and judges did not pass the Bail Act – it was Parliament. Call the elected legislature a liberal elite if you like (but it is democracy – got a better idea?) but give the judiciary a break. We enforce Parliament’s rules.
Your Constable’s Oath commits you to bear true alleigance to the Crown, liberal elite and all.
Where does Gadget specifically blame magistrates and judges, Bystander? Where does he say that magistrates and judges ‘passed the Bail Act’? He blames the ‘liberal elite’, which applies equally to the people who pass the laws (on bail, for instance) as to those who hand down the weak sentences and let people out on bail when they really shouldn’t.
We all know some magistrates and some judges are decent folks who do their best, and that some MPs and social commentators are likewise good eggs.
But the fact is that lots of the above live in areas and move in circles where scumbaggy crime isn’t really (yet, still) much of an issue.
These are the liberal elite – elite because their homes are often in places far from the consequences of their laws and actions, and liberal because they take a liberal attitude to crime (because they, er, live in areas and move in circles where scumbaggy crime isn’t really (yet, still) much of an issue).
The day that the barricades break, and Polly Toynbee, Jacqui Smith, the Lord Chief Justice, the Prime Minister, Andrew Marr, Jeremy Paxman, two thirds of the magistracy, one third of the judiciary, one third of the staff of the CPS and the children of every MP, BBC journalist and Guardian correspondent get mugged, raped or stabbed… that’s when we’ll see some tough sentencing handed down.
Until then, not so much.
Bystander – read the excellent DumbJon on liberal magistrates (scroll down to ‘Culture War: Why It Matters’.
Is it just me or does this just about sum up our Criminal Joke System…sorry Criminal Justice System;
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/10/15/judge-says-thug-may-kill-and-then-frees-him-115875-20804850/
Judge says thug may kill and then frees him
By Stewart Maclean 15/10/2008
A yob who offered to fight a prosecutor was yesterday released on bail – even after a judge admitted he may kill.
Paul Langston, 18, challenged barrister Mark Fraser to “step outside” and had to be dragged kicking and screaming from court by guards at a hearing last month.
Langston was yesterday found guilty of contempt but Judge Wendy Joseph QC bailed him to reappear at Snaresbrook crown court for sentencing on December 8.
She said: “There is always the risk he will end up hurting someone really badly or even kill them and spend the rest of his life in prison.”
At the earlier hearing, Langston claimed he picked up the 7.5in blade which he was carrying when stopped by a PCSO in Ilford, East London, in August.
He flew into a rage when Mr Fraser suggested he had made it up.
Four security guards were needed to subdue Langston, who screamed at Mr Fraser: “If you wanna make something of it, we can step outside.”
Langston, who had been drinking heavily before coming into court, even reportedly threatened to punch his own barrister Claire Harden after she went down to the cells to visit him.
Langston, of Forest Gate, East London, ADMITTED TWO COUNTS OF BREACHING BAIL CONDITIONS and having an article with a blade or point.
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He’s already breached bail conditions twice, so who bets he breached them again this time. He obviously doesn’t give a flying ****
I’m depressed…
you want stupid… how about a 35 y/o male with no dependants or drug habbit on his 5th appearance at crown court for domestic burglary ( agg by night time and persons present ) only getting 18 months on a guilty plea and not having the min senetence guidelines enforced because he said he was sorry….
… bollox..
Some courts are weak and are letting down the community they serve .. its about time ld judges are held accountable for there actions by the PUBLIC !
I’m intrigued by the numbers of people on this website who like to quote snippets from the Mail, Mirror, similar rags or other media to prove the point that the Judiciary consist of a bunch of chinless fops who live in a bubble, unable to see crime for what it is and subsequently handing out soft sentences (on this thread Ted @ 11; Dave H @ 13; Paul @ 29 ; What A Joke @ 46 ). Others on this thread alone make sweeping statements, gleaned clearly from the media, rather than an in-depth personal knowledge.
These are the same people who wail in frustration at the media’s lies, fact-twisting and bias when the story relates to a Police Officer. For a good example read IG’s post on Pc Anthony Mulhall (Mind The Gap 21st July). To quote one of the regular commentators to this blog, Notellin, who posted on this issue “This is the point, it could have been anyone of us getting torn apart by the rabid media dogs, simply for doing our jobs” and, “I have no issues with the media reporting such things, but i do expect, demand even, proportionality, unbiased, un-sensationalised, balanced reporting for all parties be it the media or those who they quote”.
I couldn’t agree more.
Got a comment on the recent pay agreement? I thought the Fed had said we would not be supporting a 3 year deal?
And, as we haven’t sorted out Ugly Smiths “authority” to impose what she likes when she likes, how can we take this offer at face value?
Hearysay…
You cannot hope to bribe or twist
(thank God) the British journalist.
But seeing what the man will do Unbribed,
there’s no occasion to.
I watched the channel 5 Documentary about “tent city” a prison in Arizona. No porn, no playstations, no drugs just hard time. Although you would still have the cost of staffing this type of place it would still be far cheaper than providng the expensive quasi hotels that are built to house scrotes here.
I suppose the human rights squad would get in the way of billeting the trash in a tent city here, but I can dream of scrotes getting sentences that fit the crime and being sick at the thought of where they would be sent for the next 20 years for mowing somebody down whilst pi**ed or high in someone elses motor
I like to stitch folk up but hey, I’m the law folks!
I’ve dealt with two cases that ended in tragedy after the courts bailed an offender when a remand application was put in.
The first was a nasty domestic assault (After a string of previous domestic assaults), the second being a possession of offensive weapon / breach of ASBO where the offender chased someone down the street with a metal bar, thankfully not catching them!
Both were bailed by the magistrates court and a matter of weeks later both went on to commit murder.